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Thanks Shirley,

Yes, reading back it makes sense. I think I jumped too early and replied at 18.25 before I digested the information properly. That makes more sense, now that I have a few more names, I can go through the census and find our more.

When you get a piece of paper, and write it as a tree, it makes more sense.

So the Steer children, were born after Frdk. so they are half-siblings, rather than step-siblings.

Marriages Sep 1869
HALLAN Eliza St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 486
STEER George St Geo H Sq 1a 486


Name: Eliza Hallan
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 12 Jul 1869
Marriage Place: St George, Hanover Square, London, Westminster, England
Parish as it Appears: St George, Hanover Square
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Father: John Hallan
Spouse: George Steer

Looks interesting before he married

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
44, Havelock Street, Islington, London & Middlesex, England
Household members (9 people)

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Steer Head Married Male 36 1845 Railway porter Richmond, Surrey, England
Eliza Steer Wife Married Female 35 1846 - Leicestershire, England
George Henry Steer Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Luton, Bedfordshire, England
Edith Mary Steer Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Islington, Middlesex, England
John William Steer Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Islington, Middlesex, England
James Steer Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Islington, Middlesex, England
Frederick Hallam Nephew Single Male 16 1865 Van guard Lincolnshire, England
George Theaker Boarder Married Male 24 1857 Railway porter Park, Lincolnshire, England
James Smith Boarder Single Male 22 1859 Railway porter Kendal, Westmorland, England

I think the names stier are spelling errors

1911 census

George Henry Steer
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Name: George Henry Steer
Age in 1911: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Luton, Bedfordshire
Civil Parish: Walthamstow
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County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Cumberland Road, Walthamstow, Essex
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Head Porter GPO
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration District: Walthamstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Piece: 9721
Household Members:
Name Age
George Henry Steer 41
Florence Eley Steer 41
Florence Gertrude Steer 12
Margaret Eley Steer 3
James Steer 35 brother


And

STEER, JAMES HALLAN
GRO Reference: 1876 M Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 292

STEER, GEORGE HENRY HALLEN
GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in LUTON Volume 03B Page 458

So mmn possibly Hallam !

Motown girl

His mum appears to have been Eliza. But with no birth registration it’s just speculation

His grandparents though are John Hallam and Martha nee Hopewell

His baptism was posted by Maddie

Here it is again

Frederick
Mother's first name(s) Eliza
Last name Hallam
Event type Parish Registers
Birth year 1865
Archive Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland
Baptism year 1865
Archive reference DE1287/7
Baptism date 26 Nov 1865
Page 88
Baptism place Kegworth
Record set Leicestershire Baptisms
Denomination Anglican
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
County Leicestershire
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Country England
Collections from England, Great Brit

Reading back the post from Maddie.

Could it be that Elizabeth was Frdk's mother, and died in childbirth, and brought up by Martha?

I know this is speculation, but I just cannot make sense of it.

Thank you both Shirley and Maddie.

You can maybe see my confusion. Could Martha be a diminative of Elizabeth? I have not heard of that before. I guessed Hopewell was MMN.

In the 1891 Census in Islington, in his household are two males named Steer, who are apparently step-brothers, I am trying to get the connection. Sometimes they are half siblings, but not recorded as such.

Back to another digging session. Thanks again.

maybe he used his grandfathers name of samuel when he married

Martha
Residence  St Michaels Sutton Bon
Last name  Hopwell
Document type  Bishop's Transcripts
Baptism year  1813
Year range  1813-1838
Baptism date  12 Jan 1813
Page  1
Father's first name(s)  Samuel --------=
Archive  Nottinghamshire Archives
Father's last name  Hopwell
County  Nottinghamshire
Father's occupation  Labourer
Country  England
Mother's first name(s)  Mary
Record set  Nottinghamshire Baptisms
Place  Sutton Bonington
Category  Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Church  St Michael
Subcategory  Parish Baptisms
Denomination  Anglican

mother Eliza ????

HALLAM, ELIZA 22
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in SHARDLOW Volume 07B Page 225

Eliza
Country  England
Last name  Hallam
Volume  19
Birth quarter  2
Page  545
Birth year  1843
Record set  England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name  Hopewell
Category  Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District  Shardlow
Subcategory  Civil Births
County  Derbyshire

Eliza
Burial place  Long Eaton, Derbyshire, England
Last name  Hallam
Cemetery  Chapelry Of Long Eaton
Gender  Female
Residence  Long Eaton, Derbyshire, England
Marital status  Unknown
Place  Long Eaton
Occupation  -
County  Derbyshire
Event year  1865
Country  England
Birth year  1843
Record set  England Deaths & Burials 1538-1991
Age at death  22y
Category  Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death place  Long Eaton, Derbyshire, England
Subcategory  Parish Burials
Burial year  1865
Collections from  England, Great Britain
Burial date  13 Dec 1865

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Name: John Hallam
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha Hallam
Gender: Male
Where born: Kegworth, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Kegworth
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Castle Donnington
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 54
Piece: 2488
Folio: 44
Page number: 11
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Hallam 47 Head
Martha Hallam
48 Wife
Eliza Hallam
18 Daughter ###
John Hallam
16 Son

his bapt ???

Frederick
Mother's first name(s)  Eliza
Last name  Hallam
Event type  Parish Registers
Birth year  1865
Archive  Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland
Baptism year  1865
Archive reference  DE1287/7
Baptism date  26 Nov 1865
Page  88
Baptism place  Kegworth
Record set  Leicestershire Baptisms
Denomination  Anglican
Category  Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
County  Leicestershire
Subcategory  Parish Baptisms
Country  England

You can see where the Hopewell name comes in

First name(s) John
Place Kegworth
Last name Hallam
County Leicestershire
Age -
Country England
Birth year -
Event type Parish Registers
Residence Kegworth
Archive Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland
Marriage year 1836
Archive reference DE1287/13
Marriage date 14 Mar 1836
Record set Leicestershire Marriages
Spouse's first name(s) Martha
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Spouse's last name Hopewell
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Spouse's residence St Michaels Sutton Bourington
Collections from England, Great Britain
Denomination Anglican


And some birth reg

HALLAM, JOHN HOPEWELL
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in SHARDLOW UNION Volume 19 Page 562


HALLAM, ELIZA HOPEWELL
GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in SHARDLOW UNION Volume 19 Page 545

I have a feeling frederick was Illegitimate cos there doesn’t seem to be a son Samuel

Frederick birth isn’t registered

This looks a possibility

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Dragwell, Kegworth, Shardlow, Leicestershire, England

Household members (6 people)

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Hallam Head - Male 57 1814 - Leicestershire, England
Martha Hallam Wife - Female 58 1813 - Nottinghamshire, England
John Hallam Son - Male 26 1845 - Leicestershire, England
James Hallam Father - Male 90 1781 - Leicestershire, England
Frederick Mellors Grandson - Male 12 1859 - Leicestershire, England
Frederick Hallam Grandson - Male 6 1865 - Leicestershire, England

Have you found his birth Reg to establish both parents names