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Shirley
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30 Oct 2022 00:35 |
Trying to find info on a vicar Frederick Jones who was vicar of St Matthews in Burnley from 1923 until 1945. Previously he had been vicar or curate at Bosley St Mary's in Macclesfield. I have no Idea of his date of birth or death as yet. Can anyone help? :-) :-) :-)
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KathleenBell
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30 Oct 2022 11:35 |
There is this one in Burnley in the 1939 register:-
1939 Register Parkfield Fern Road, Burnley, Burnley C.B., Lancashire, England
Frederick Jones 28 Jan 1881 Male Clerk In Holy Orders Married 17 1 Annie E Jones 13 Oct 1883 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 17 2
First name(s) Frederick County Lancashire Last name(s) Jones Country England Birth date 28 Jan 1881 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< E. D. letter code NFNK Birth day 28 Schedule 17 Birth month 1 Schedule sub number 1 Birth year 1881 Archive reference RG101/4309C/002/12 Sex Male Piece number 4309C Marital status Married Item number 2 Occupation Clerk In Holy Orders <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Line number 12 Address Parkfield Fern Road, Burnley Category Census, land & surveys Place Burnley C.B. Subcategory Census Borough / district Burnley C.B. Collections from Great Britain, England
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KathleenBell
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30 Oct 2022 11:52 |
There is a history of St. Matthew's Church here:-
https://media.acny.uk/media/venues/page/attachment/2021/11/Parish_History_Page.pdf
Rev. Frederick Jones is mentioned from page 4 of the document.
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Maddie
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30 Oct 2022 12:47 |
?????? Frederick Spouse's birth year 1884 Last name Jones Spouse's marital status Spinster Age 28 Spouse's residence Ashwyn Edge Lane Birth year 1881 Spouse's father's first name(s) Christopher Occupation Science demonstrator Spouse's father's last name Battersby Marital status Bachelor Spouse's father's occupation Managing Clerk Year 1909 Witness 1 Henry Gibbs Marriage year 1909 Witness 2 Lillin Battersby Marriage date 07 Jul 1909 County Lancashire Place Edge Hill, St Cyprian Country England Denomination Church Of England Archive Liverpool Record Office Diocese Liverpool Archive reference 283-CYP-3-4 Residence 93 Holt Road Register type Marriages Father's first name(s) William Register year range 1906-1913 Father's last name Jones Record set Lancashire Banns & Marriages Father's occupation Optician,Deceased Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Spouse's first name(s) Annie Ellen Subcategory Parish Marriages Spouse's last name Battersby Collections from England, Great Britain Spouse's age 25
Annie Ellen Country England Last name Battersby Father's first name(s) Christopher Gender Female Father's last name Battersby Birth year - Mother's first name(s) Margaret Ann Birth place - Mother's last name - Baptism year 1884 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Baptism date 21 Feb 1884 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Everton Subcategory Parish Baptisms County Lancashire
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ArgyllGran
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30 Oct 2022 12:49 |
According to Google Maps, Fern Road is only 0.3 miles from St Matthews Church.
Ancestry suggests that this could be the marriage of that 1939 couple;
Frederick Jones in the Liverpool, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1935 Name: Frederick Jones Gender: Male Marriage Age: 28 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1881 Marriage Date: 7 Jul 1909 Marriage Place: Edge Hill, St Cyprian, Lancashire, England Father: William Jones Spouse: Annie Ellen Battersby
That Frederick is a science demonstrator. In 1911 he's a science teacher (Bachelor of Science).
But perhaps he became a "Clerk in holy orders' later.
Their ages in 1911 fit with those in 1939.
Frederick Jones in the 1911 England Census Name: Frederick Jones Age in 1911: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Everton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Liscard County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address: 20 Liscard Grove Wallasey Rd Wallasey Cheshire Marital status: Married Occupation: Teacher Science Teshnical Registration District Number: 452 Sub-registration District: Wallasey ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Piece: 22076 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Jones 30 Annie Ellen Jones 27 Francis Jones 18 - brother
BATTERSBY, ANNIE ELLEN mmn ROBERTS GRO Reference: 1883 D Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 553
However, so far I don't see a good match for them in 1921.
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ArgyllGran
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30 Oct 2022 12:53 |
Following up on that family, just in case:
Francis Jones in the 1901 England Census Name: Francis Jones Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Father: William Jones Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Liverpool Search Photos: View blank form Ecclesiastical parish: St Albans County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: Piece: 3410 Folio: 113 Page number: 13 Household schedule number: 81
Listed with father William 49 (widower) , and siblings Frederick 20 undergraduate at (something) College Liverpool, John 18, Eleanor 15, William 12, and Frances E 10
Frederick Jones in the 1891 England Census Name: Frederick Jones Gender: Male Age: 10 Relationship: Son Birth Year: 1881 Father: William Jones Mother: Elizabeth A Jones Birth Place: Liverpool Civil parish: Kirkdale Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Residence Place: Kirkdale, Lancashire, England Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: Kirkdale ED, Institution or Vessel: 1 Neighbors: Piece: 2958 Folio: 10 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship William Jones 39 Head Elizabeth A Jones 36 Wife Frederick Jones 10 Son John Jones 8 Son Eleanor Jones 5 Daughter William Jones 2 Son Frances E Jones 2/12 Daughter John Halliwell 21 Brother-in-law Thomas Conolly 35 Visitor
Marriages Dec 1875 (>99%) HALLIWELL Elizabeth Ann W. Derby 8b 665 Jones William W. Derby 8b 665
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Shirley
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30 Oct 2022 13:36 |
hi. Yes I think you are definately correct with this being our Frederick Jones because in newspapers he was mentioned as having a Bsc. So it looks like he was born on Merseyside or Everton to be precise. Thankyou so much for all the detail. Appreciated. regards Shirley :-)
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Shirley
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30 Oct 2022 13:39 |
it did also say in the newspaper that he was to reside at Park field which is just up from the church, closer to Scott park. so we have the correct chap thanks :-)
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Maddie
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30 Oct 2022 13:39 |
Name: William Jones Gender: Male Marriage Age: 23 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1852 Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1875 Marriage Place: Kensington, Christ Church, Lancashire, England Search Photos: View Map Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: John Jones a ships carpenter ------- Spouse: Elizabeth Ann Halliwell
an optician
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Queen Street, St Bees, Whitehaven, Cumberland, England View original record Household members (7 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Jones Head Married Male 40 1821 Shipwrights journeyman Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Hannah Jones Wife Married Female 37 1824 - Lamplugh, Cumberland, England Francis Jones Son - Male 10 1851 Scholar Whitehaven, Cumberland, England William Jones Son - Male 9 1852 Scholar Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Hannah Jones Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Thomas Jones Brother Unmarried Male 32 1829 Mariner merchant service Whitehaven, Cumberla
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Shirley
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15 Nov 2022 23:17 |
Thankyou so much for all this information ?????? :-)
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