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Thankyou

Very good find, Maddie.

Ancestry version, which is less of a muddle than FMP

Name: George Campbell
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 33
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1833
Marriage Date: 3 Jul 1866
Marriage Place: Bevington, St Alban, Lancashire, England
Father: James Campbell........................Musician
Spouse: Margaret Keylow
Father: Charles Eaton..........Farmer

showa more info if relevant

George
Spouse's birth year 1833
Last name Campbell
Spouse's marital status Widow
Age 33
Spouse's residence Burlington St
Birth year 1833
Spouse's father's first name(s) Charles
Occupation Musician
Spouse's father's last name Eaton
Marital status Widower
Spouse's father's occupation Farmer
Year 1866
Witness 1 Watler Francis
Marriage year 1866
Witness 2 Maragret Shacklock
Marriage date 03 Jul 1866
County Lancashire
Place Bevington, St Alban
Country England
Denomination Church Of England
Archive Liverpool Record Office
Diocese Liverpool
Archive reference 283-ALB-3-1
Residence Burlington ST
Register type Marriages
Father's first name(s) James
Register year range 1850-1867
Father's last name Campbell
Record set Lancashire Banns & Marriages
Father's occupation Musician
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Spouse's first name(s) Margaret
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Spouse's last name Keylow
Collections from England, Great Britain
Spouse's age 33

Posting what comes up when inputting 'musician' as a keyword. with birth years which would 'fit'

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Peter Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

John Sheen Head Married Male 52 1799 Laying house keeper Ireland
Bridget Sheen Wife Married Female 51 1800 - Ireland
Ann Sheen Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1838 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
Margaret Cand Servant Unmarried Female 17 1834 Servant Ireland
William Calcot Visitor Married Male 38 1813 Farm engmo fitter Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Alice Calcot Visitor Married Female 34 1817 Farm engmo fitter wife Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Ellis Visitor Married Male 30 1821 Gardiner Ball, Somerset, England
George Emley Visitor Married Male 29 1822 Violin player Stockport, Cheshire, England
George Campbell Visitor Unmarried Male 29 1822 Musician Scotland

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
26, Beswick Row, Manchester, Lancashire, England

Mary A Craig Head Widow Female 67 1834 Laundress Roker, Northumberland, England
Esther A Craig Daughter Widow Female 39 1862 Laundress Wigan, Lancashire, England
Charles Craig Son Single Male 31 1870 Musician Manchester, Lancashire, England
George Campbell Visitor Married Male 70 1831 Musician (playing bagpipes) Scotland
Henry Percy Boarder Single Male 55 1846 House painter London, Middlesex, England
Alice Herwin Boarder Single Female 62 1839 Charwoman Manchester, Lancashire, England
Henry Craig Grand son Single Male 9 1892 - Manchester, Lancashire, England

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
28, Abbey Street, St Margarets, Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Joseph Lawton Head Married Male 47 1814 Warp hawker Leicestershire, England
Ann Lawton Wife Married Female 46 1815 - Earl Shilton, Leicestershire, England
Tom Henry Lawton Son - Male 14 1847 Hair dresser Leicestershire, England
Mary Ann Lawton Daughter - Female 12 1849 Scholar Leicestershire, England
James Lawton Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar Leicestershire, England
James Daplidge Lodger Unmarried Male 75 1786 Framework knitter Leicestershire, England
William Johnson Lodger Unmarried Male 52 1809 Framework knitter Kent, England
Thomas Rass Lodger Unmarried Male 29 1832 Framework knitter Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Biddy Ratchford Lodger Unmarried Female 26 1835 Hawlker and smalware Ireland
George Campbell Lodger Married Male 31 1830 Musician Scotland
James Campbell Lodger - Male 7 1854 Musician Scotland
Patrick Murphy Lodger Married Male 24 1837 Brass moulder Ireland
John Morton Lodger Married Male 38 1823 Book hawker Manchester, Lancashire, England
William R Stewart Lodger Unmarried Male 28 1833 Tailor Scotland
Susan Campbell Lodger - Female 11 1850 Musician Scotland

typical!!

No-one with the name Campbell at 113 Charter Street on 1871 census

So far, no actual 'sighting' of the alleged father anywhere in connection with the woman in question

The address she gives when she marries is Cunliffe Street, RhosDdu.
No-one named Campbell is living there in 1891

The census date was 2nd April for 1971. A bit close to the birth. Would they have moved so quickly so as to not be on the 1871 census.? A bit tough on the mother.

I assume the birth certificate implies the parents were married. I couldn’t find that.

the mother

113 Charter Street Manchester

What was the address on the birth cert?

Who registered the birth?

Erikah

Georgina's birth cert

The "Frances" only occurs in her marriage

The birth Cert is difficult to read

T?ewnt?th

Gerry

Please clarify exactly which documented info you have in your possession.

The precise wording would also be useful

The woman who married in February 1893 aged 22 would not have been born as late as April 1871, if she knew her age accurately.

As the baptism posted was in Latin, may be Frances was an additional name chosen and added, when the child was confirmed ?

If the date of birth as per certificate is correct, then the baptism posted yesterday by safc can't be right as it says that Georgiana was born on 19th (unless that's a mistake)

For what it's worth - if anything -

Ancestry suggests this may be related to the George in Georgina Francis's marriage record - though this woman is 22 years older than Georgina, so possibly unlikely:

Susan Campbell
in the Manchester, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
Name: Susan Campbell
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 19
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1849
Marriage Date: 25 May 1868
Marriage Place: Manchester, St Thomas, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Manchester, St Thomas
Father: George Campbell
Spouse: John Garrity
Reference Number: GB127.M330/3/2/1

The father George is a musician.


Susan Garrity
in the 1871 Scotland Census
Name: Susan Garrity
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Garrity
Gender: Female
Where born: Haroeck [ Hawick ] , Roxburgh
Registration Number: 644/1
Registration district: Central District
Civil parish: Glasgow St Paul
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 13 Bell St
Occupation: Vecalist [ vocalist ]
ED: 28
Household schedule number: 79
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1871_123
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Garrity 22 Boarder
Susan Garrity 20 Wife
Eliza Garrity 2 Daur (Daughter)
George Garrity 11mo Son


George Campbell
in the 1851 Scotland Census
Name: George Campbell
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire
Parish Number: 789
Civil Parish: Hawick
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Hawick
County: Roxburghshire
Address: Backrow
Occupation: Feddler [ could be "Fiddler" - though maybe Peddler/pedlar ]
ED: 10
Page: 16
Household Schedule Number: 48
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1851_201
Household Members:
Name Age
George Campbell 23
Margaret Campbell 20
Susan Campbell 3
Mary Ann Campbell 2
(not transcribed) 8 Mo (male)

Does the birth cert give the middle name Frances?
The GRO transcription doesn't.

What record have you found of the middle name?

Is the Georgina in the Denbighshire marriage posted by Greyghost the right person?
And/or the Jennie in the 1901 census?



Just in case it turns out to be relevant -
this is the marriage of the parents of the child baptised in Cheetham in 1871 - posted by Safc :

George Campbell
in the Liverpool, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1935
Name: George Campbell
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 33
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1833
Marriage Date: 3 Jul 1866
Marriage Place: Bevington, St Alban, Lancashire, England
Father: James Campbell
Spouse: Margaret Keylow

thank for your input

the info i have is from Georgiana's birth cert

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
CARTER, GEORGINA CAMPBELL
GRO Reference: 1899 D Quarter in DARLINGTON Volume 10A Page 7

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?? Georgina shown as Jennie

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
26, Orchard Street, Carlisle Botchergate, Carlisle, Cumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Storey Head Married Male 70 1831 Shoe maker Dalston, Cumberland, England
Catherine Storey Wife Married Female 73 1828 - Wigton, Cumberland, England
John Geo Grant Grand son Single Male 17 1884 - Dalston, Cumberland, England
Ronald A Grant Grand son Single Male 15 1886 - Carlisle, Cumberland, England
Mary I Grant Grand daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Carlisle, Cumberland, England
Peter Grant Grand son Single Male 8 1893 - Carlisle, Cumberland, England
Silas Carter Visitor Married Male 32 1869 Living on own means Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Jennie Carter Visitor Married Female 29 1872 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Georgina Carter Visitor Single Female 1 1900 - Darlington, Durham, England