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As previously posted by Argyll

Births Jun 1908
Gurney Arthur Bertie St. Olave 1d 229

But he wouldn’t be the father of Arthur David !!

Name: Arthur Bert Gurney
Death Age: 79
Birth Date: 20 May 1908
Registration Date: Jan 1988
Registration District: Oxford
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Volume: 20
Page: 2790

So if your grandfather was born Arthur David and no father named on his birth cert then without name it’s impossible to say who his father was

DNA may be the way to go

Arthur Bertie was the BROTHER of the woman who gave birth to the child who was adopted by the Butlers

Arthur Bertie was my late Grandfather. Winifred was his sister and my Grand Aunt.

Thank you for some information. It must be hard researched for Margaret D Markham and who did she married to Shangi? I don’t have to access Ancestry website.

There's no record of a marriage for Margaret in England/Scotland/Wales.

She may not have married, but only taken his name .
Or perhaps she married abroad.

I can't see any record of Margaret between 1965 and her death, so don't know if Mr Stangi was with her or not (not listed with her in 1965) , nor what his first name was.

If you buy a copy of her death cert, that should tell you his name - if the informant knew it.

I have researched that surname of STANGI from Asia, Africa area. They could married abraod. :-(

Death

Name: Year of Birth:
STANGI, MARGARET DAWN 1940
GRO Reference: DOR Q3/2018 in CARMARTHENSHIRE (822-1A) Entry Number 517910170

Death also posted 24 Oct at 11:13.

According to a tree on ancestry she was the informant on her mums death cert in 1988 as Stangi

Residence
Oct 1988 • 30 Tudor Close, Brixton Hill, London SW2
Residence at time of Mothers death. Signed the death certificate D Stangi.

And was with her mum and dad in 1965 as Stang

Name: Margaret D Stang
Electoral Date: 1965
Street Address: 17 Croydon
Ward or Division/Constituency: Croydon South
County or Borough: Croydon, England
Reference Number: LCC/PER/B/3003

Do you think Margaret D Markham married oversea? Which Country Stangi come from?

We can't tell if she married overseas or not.
For all we know, she may not have married at all, but only taken a partner's name, as suggested previously.

All we can say for certain, from the records available to us online, is that she did not marry Mr Stangi in England, Scotland, or Wales.

We can't tell where Mr Stangi came from.
With so much travel and emigration around the world, he could have been born anywhere.

Is there will tell where’s about Winnie M Sophie Markham’s burial in Croydon?

Winifred Mary S Markham
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Winifred Mary S Markham
Death Age: 84
Birth Date: 19 Aug 1904
Registration Date: Oct 1988
Registration District: Croydon
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 11
Page: 1751

I have contacted the church in lanilleli about re: her young sister Margaret Dawn Stangi. She was with her mother Winnie M S Markham when she died in Croydon. She don’t gave any informations about her mum Winnie Markham. But is there any chance to find out where was Winnie”s burial?

Kind Regards

Is there will tell where’s about Winnie M Sophie Markham’s burial in Croydon?

Winifred Mary S Markham
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Winifred Mary S Markham
Death Age: 84
Birth Date: 19 Aug 1904
Registration Date: Oct 1988
Registration District: Croydon
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 11
Page: 1751

I have contacted the church in lanilleli about re: her young sister Margaret Dawn Stangi. She was with her mother Winnie M S Markham when she died in Croydon. She don’t gave any informations about her mum Winnie Markham. But is there any chance to find out where was Winnie”s burial?

Kind Regards

I was told that Margaret Dawn Stangi had travelled to South Africa and she possibly married to Stangi from South Africa. Is there can I find out whether she married to Stangi in South Africa?

Here are lists of South African records available.
I don't know if any of them might help you:

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/South_Africa_Online_Genealogy_Records

https://www.cyndislist.com/south-africa/bmd/

Re Winifred's burial (or she may have been cremated) -

try contacting Croydon cemeteries:

https://www.croydon.gov.uk/births-deaths-marriages-and-citizenship/death-and-bereavement/bereavement-services/cemeteries