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Maddie
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3 Oct 2022 14:42 |
Thomas Father's last name Alsop Last name Alsop Spouse's father's first name(s) Joseph Birth year 1820 Spouse's father's last name Vernon Age 19 Denomination Anglican Residence Wood End Place Hanbury, St Werburgh Year 1839 County Staffordshire Date 20 Nov 1839 Country England Spouse's first name(s) Anne Archive reference D5940/1/3 Spouse's last name Vernon Page 11 Spouse's birth year 1819 Record set Staffordshire Marriages Spouse's age 20 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Spouse's residence Wood End Subcategory Parish Marriages Father's first name(s) Thomas
thomas and his father were labourers
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ErikaH
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3 Oct 2022 14:23 |
What were the occupations of Thomas and his father on the marriage cert?
And an address?
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Oct 2022 10:22 |
She had a Child by Samuel Pegg
Name: Elizabeth Alsop Or Pegg Gender: Female Baptism Date: 28 Feb 1850 Baptism Place: Hanbury,Stafford,England Father: Samuel Pegg Mother: Anne Alsop FHL Film Number: 417196, 426553
PEGG, ELIZABETH VERNON GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT UNION Volume 17 Page 22
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Oct 2022 10:13 |
Just to see if anymore children reg but suspect Charles was only registered because he was born in the workhouse
So
ALLSOP, CHARLES VERNON GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in TAMWORTH UNION Volume 16 Page 504
Nope that’s not working , maybe more children but not registered !
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Chrissie2394
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1 Oct 2022 21:29 |
Thanks everyone for your replies. I hadn't realised that they'd been in the workhouse.
I will look for deaths between 1851 and 1860 for Thomas. I have tried looking for a baptism for him but I can't narrow it down as I don't know where he was born.
Thomas's age on marriage was 19 so c1820. It's very frustrating not finding him in 1841.
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ErikaH
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1 Oct 2022 21:17 |
Charles was with his maternal grandparents in 1851 - but not in 1841
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census New Lodge, Hanbury, Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Joseph Vernon Head Married Male 68 1783 Pauper ag lab Hanbury, Staffordshire, England Ann Vernon Wife - Female 66 1785 Pauper midwife Hilton, Derbyshire, England Charles Alsop Grand son - Male 10 1841 Scholar Hanbury, Staffordshire, England
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alviegal
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1 Oct 2022 20:05 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Hanbury Wood End, Hanbury, Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Household members (6 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Ann Vernon Head Widow Female 77 1784 Midwife Hilton, Derbyshire, England Charles Vernon Son Unmarried Male 46 1815 Pensioner marine Hanbury, Staffordshire, England John Hudson Son in law Married Male 41 1820 Agricultural labourer Clifton, Derbyshire, England >>Ann Hudson Daughter Married Female 41 1820 Agricultural labourers wife Hanbury, Staffordshire, England >>Elizabeth Allsop Granddaughter - Female 11 1850 Scholar Hanbury, Staffordshire, England >>Mary Allsop Granddaughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar Hanbury, Staffordshire, England
So Thomas appears to have died between 1851 and 1860.
Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%) ALLSOP Ann Burton 6B 482 Scan available - click to view Hudson John Burton 6b 482
?? ALLSOP, THOMAS 74 GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 142
Too old perhaps.
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1 Oct 2022 20:01 |
Birth
Charles Country England Last name Allsop Volume 16 Birth quarter 2 Page 504 Birth year 1840 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Mother's maiden name Vernon Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Tamworth Subcategory Civil Births County Staffordshire Collections from Great Brit
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Charles County Staffordshire Last name Allsop Country England Birth year 1840 Archive reference D1001/1/5 Age 16 Register type Burial Death year 1856 Page 99 Death date ? ? 1856 Record set Staffordshire Burials Burial year 1856 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Burial date 04 Jun 1856 Subcategory Parish Burials Denomination Anglican Collections from England, Great Britain Place Mayfield, St John the Baptist
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alviegal
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1 Oct 2022 19:57 |
Charles was baptised 25 June 1840, abode looks to be Workhouse.
First name(s) Charles Country England Last name Allsop Archive reference D3773/1/9 Baptism year 1840 Register type Baptism Baptism date 25 Jun 1840 Page 32 Father's first name(s) Thomas Record set Staffordshire Baptisms Mother's first name(s) Ann Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Denomination Anglican Subcategory Parish Baptisms Place Tamworth, St Editha
1851 for reference.
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census New Lodge, Hanbury, Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Household members (3 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Ann Allsop Head Married Female 31 1820 Lab wife Hanbury, Staffordshire, England Elizabeth Allsop Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Hanbury, Staffordshire, England Samuel Pegg Lodger Married Male 58 1793 Ag lab Norbury, Derbyshire, England
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Chrissie2394
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1 Oct 2022 19:24 |
I'm struggling to find the following family in the 1841 Census and would really appreciate a little help. I've checked trees on Ancestry but no one appears to have the 1841 census.
Thomas Allsop c1820 Ann Allsop 1820 Hanbury, Staffs Charles Allsop 1840 birth regd Tamworth Staffs
Surname spelt Alsop/Allsop/Allsopp
I don't know where Thomas is from or how to identify him in census records as the only record I have for him is his marriage to Ann. His father was named as Thomas and witnesses were Anns brother John Vernon and a Jacob Bannister.
Thomas and Ann were married on 20th November 1839 in Hanbury. I don't know how long they were together but Ann was with Samuel Pegg in 1851 listed as lodger and they had a baby daughter, Elizabeth. They were in Hanbury and both shown as married.
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