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ErikaH
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26 Sep 2022 10:37 |
WOOD, JEAN PAMELA GRO Reference: 1932 M Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 225
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Delboy1978
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25 Sep 2022 12:54 |
its not arrived yet. Will confirm when it does
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ErikaH
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25 Sep 2022 11:41 |
You say you have purchased the birth cert for Jean P Wood - what was her DoB?
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Delboy1978
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25 Sep 2022 11:33 |
No, I only have her baptism information, where she was named as Florrie!
Detail Source Name: Florrie Knott Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 8 Apr 1909 Baptism Place: Holy Trinity, Hounslow, Hounslow, England Father: John Knott Mother: Annie Knott Save
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ErikaH
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25 Sep 2022 09:44 |
Unless the daughter has died and her death has been picked up, her record won’t be open in 1939. Ditto Florence’s death
Do you know Florence’s DoB?
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Delboy1978
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25 Sep 2022 09:04 |
Thanks. I did see that one which gave his birth approx 1856 which is near enough. Another cert to buy :-)
What I havnt found is where Florence Wood is in the 1939 census as she isnt listed with Leonard.
I wonder if she is somewhere with this child (I have purchased the birth cert to see)
Births Mar 1932 (>99%) Wood Jean P Knott Brentford
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ArgyllGran
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24 Sep 2022 15:53 |
Maybe ???
Deaths Sep 1951 (>99%) WOOD Edward 95 Ealing 5e 109
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ArgyllGran
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24 Sep 2022 15:13 |
Father Edward still living in 1939:
Edward Wood in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Edward Wood Gender: Male Marital Status: Widowed Birth Date: 2 Apr 1857 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 7 Haliburton Road Residence Place: Heston and Isleworth, Middlesex, England Occupation: Retired Carman Line Number: 34 Schedule Number: 87 Sub Schedule Number: 3 Enumeration District: Blav Borough: Heston and Isleworth Registration district: 128/1 Household Members Age Edward R Wood 24 - [54] 15/12/1885, married, proprietor private hire service. Edward Charles Wood 22 - single, civil service clerk Edward Wood 82 Leonard T Christer 25 Haude H L Christer 24 - Maud & Edward R's daughter, married Grace M Payne 14
Edward R is Leonard's brother Edward Robert.
Edward Charles is Edward Robert and Maud's son:
Births Jun 1917 (>99%) Wood Edward C Bollinson Islington 1b 484
The three Edwards, plus Maud Alice, are on the 1939 ER at that address:
Edward Wood in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Edward Wood Electoral Date: 1939 Street Address: 7 Haliburton Road Ward or Division/Constituency: Isleworth County or Borough: Twickenham, England
Edward Robert died 1947, Brentford. Maud Alice appears to be living alone at 2 Old Spring Gardens in 1945 and 1947.
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ErikaH
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24 Sep 2022 14:58 |
The info on any cert is ‘as given’ and can depend entirely on how the questions are worded
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ArgyllGran
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24 Sep 2022 14:54 |
No, on a marriage cert it doesn't always say if a father is deceased.
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Delboy1978
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24 Sep 2022 14:27 |
Hi All
I have now got the marriage cert for Leonard Charles Wood and Florence Knott in 1931.
Leonard was 23 (fits with 1908 birth year)
Father is Edward Wood retired Carman (matches all my research), it doesnt say deceased on it (does it always?) I havent been able to identify his death yet either so may narrow down my search time period
Witnesses: Edward Wood and M Wood which indicates his brother and sister in law Edward and Maud Wood present. Who he appeared to be living with at the time of marriage as address is 97 Myrtle Rd
This looks like the right couple I have been looking at.
Thank you for the help :-)
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Delboy1978
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13 Sep 2022 15:24 |
yeah looks like it could be.
Always keeping us on our toes throwing curveballs in these ancestors!
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ArgyllGran
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13 Sep 2022 15:21 |
The 1932 child might be - you'd have to buy a copy of the birth cert to find out.
This couple may be the parents of the two later children. Again, only the birth certs will tell you.
Marriages Dec 1944 (>99%) KNOTT Lily A Wood Brentford 3a 539 WOOD Stanley W Knott Brentford 3a 539
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Delboy1978
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13 Sep 2022 15:12 |
I have seen these births in Brentford
Births Mar 1932 (>99%) Wood Jean P Knott Brentford
Births Dec 1945 (>99%) Wood Janet Knott Brentford
Births Jun 1947 (>99%) Wood Eric S Knott Brentford
Im wondering if they are their children?
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ArgyllGran
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13 Sep 2022 10:14 |
No, I haven't been able to find them in 1939 either.
They're not at 61 Popes Avenue in 1939, and there's nobody listed at 15 Villiers Avenue.
Perhaps they weren't in England or Wales during the war???
Can't see Florence's death either .
ADDED: You mention a sister Agnes. I don't see such a birth.
There was a sister Annie Elizabeth, born 1906. She married Harry Hill [ born Horace Henry ] in 1923, and they had two children, both of whom (presumably) are the closed records with their parents in Hackney in 1939.
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Delboy1978
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12 Sep 2022 14:18 |
Marriage Certificate purchased: am hoping this helps to see if this is the right chap!
I am struggling to find Florence Wood's death or her in the 1939 register.
I have found her mum and dad living alone. Her sister Violet was an in-patient at a long stay hospital for people with Learning Disabilities. Agnes the other sister was somewhere else.
Unable to locate Florence (she was also Florrie) and Lorna Knott in 1939 too!
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ErikaH
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11 Sep 2022 16:44 |
1921 shows Grace, Edward, Harris(sic) and one other living together
EDITED The ‘one other’ is Ley…………..probably mistranscribed - as is the mother
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11 Sep 2022 15:34 |
Good that you have got some addresses that match with known family homes.
The middle name is confusing. An initial can be written badly but you wouldn’t use another name when filling out official documents.
As yet we haven’t found either of the names at the same address.
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Delboy1978
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11 Sep 2022 15:27 |
Thank you all. Leonard also has George as his middle name on his death cert, thats how I came to know his widow is Florence.
His baptism also said he was George Name Leonard George Wood Baptism Age 0 Record Type Baptism Birth Date 14 Apr 1908 Baptism Date 29 Apr 1908 Baptism Place St Mary, Haggerston, Hackney, England Father Edward Wood Mother Harriett Wood I know this is the right one, as the address is 32 Fellows Street which was the family home for many years. here is the 1911 census
Name Leonard Wood Age in 1911 3 Estimated Birth Year 1908 Relation to Head Son Gender Male Birth Place Shoreditch Civil parish Shoreditch County/Island London Country England Street Address 32 Fellows St, Kingsland, Haggerston Registration District Number 16 Sub-registration district Shoreditch North East ED, institution, or vessel 06 Piece 1369 Household members Name Age Edward Wood 54 Harriett Wood 49 Lilian Wood 21 Daisy Wood 18 George Wood 16 Edgar Wood 13 Grace Wood 10 Leonard Wood 3
In 1901 they lived at 25 Fellows Street....must of upgraded!
Edward R Wood was his brother yes and he and Maud had two children: Coincidently: called Edward and Maud!
Their marriage Banns states 32 Fellows Street as well.
So, it looks like possible Leonard went by two middle names! The marriage with Florence Knott looks possible, so I am going to purchase that one to rule it out or in...
Lorna Rose Knott in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995 Name: Lorna Rose Knott Probate Date: 1982 KNOTT, Lorna, otherwise Lorna Rose, of 13 Fitzwygram Close, Hampton Hill, Middlesex, died 28 January 1982.
That address is on Leonard's death certificate! Too much of a coincidence!!
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nameslessone
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11 Sep 2022 15:10 |
Leonard Charles - birth reg Shoreditch 1905 Leonard George - birth reg Shoreditch 1908
How odd they both worked on the buses in the same area.
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