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Marie
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30 Aug 2022 14:36 |
I'm looking for a bit of help please. Trying to find info on a William Matthews b.1817 Mold, Flintshire. He married Barbara Jones b. 1823 Mold I've managed to find them on the 1861/71/81 censuses, but that about it.
Their son John Matthews b.1852 Mold married Ellen Hughes b. 1864 Llanrhaiadr, Denbighshire and married 1892 in Flintshire.
Then their son Edward William Matthews b. 1898 Mold married Hannah Margaret Evans b. 1897 Neston.
Apart from the 3 censuses, I cannot find them anywhere else, or birth records. Is anyone searching this family? Any help would be most appreciated, thank you.
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30 Aug 2022 15:03 |
It is highly unlikely that anyone currently researching this family will find your thread. John Matthews is on FreeBMD with the registration area as Holywell. I’ve not looked for the others.
Finding his parents births may well be more difficult as not all Chapel records were retained. Many were destroyed.
Edit The family are on a numbers of trees on Ancestry, some of which give a full date of birth in 1820 for William
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30 Aug 2022 15:12 |
For our info - always helps if you post a relevant census etc.
The birth years of William and Barbara are out from those you mentioned on this census
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Wrexham Street, Mold, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Mathews Head - Male 50 1821 - Flintshire, Wales Barbara Mathews Wife - Female 52 1819 - Flintshire, Wales John Mathews Son - Male 19 1852 - Flintshire, Wales Mathew Mathews Son - Male 14 1857 - Flintshire, Wales Harriett Mathews Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Flintshire, Wales Female Transcript of Barbara's record
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30 Aug 2022 15:16 |
Is this their marriage? - much earlier than John's birth
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1840 (>99%) DAVIES Enoch Holywell 27 346 DAVIES Margaret Holywell 27 346 EDWARDS Thomas Holywell 27 346 ELLIS Elizabeth Holywell 27 346 HUGHES James Holywell 27 346 JONES Barbara Holywell 27 346 JONES Mary Holywell 27 346 MATHEWS William Holywell 27 346
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ErikaH
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30 Aug 2022 15:17 |
Birth records did not exist before July 1837
William’s father will be named on his marriage cert - if known to him WHEN did he marry?
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30 Aug 2022 15:21 |
From OPRs - perpetuates the spelling of the surname as Mathews - one T only First name(s) William Last name Mathews Age Minor Father's first name(s) Mathew Father's last name Mathews Spouse's father's first name(s) Edward Spouse's father's last name Jones Birth year - Marriage date 22 Jun 1840 Event year 1840 Marriage year 1840 Marriage place Bistre Spouse's first name(s) Barbara Spouse's last name Jones Spouse's age Minor County Flintshire Country Wales Event Marriage Page 88 Record set Flintshire Marriages And Banns Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from Wales, Great Britain
From image - William working as a Collier, Father Matthew also a Collier Barbara'sFather a ? Carrier witnesses - John Savage and ? Jane Jones
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30 Aug 2022 15:27 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Mynydd Isa, Argoed, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Mathews Head Married Male 32 1819 Coalminer Mold, Flintshire, Wales Barbara Mathews Wife Married Female 32 1819 - Mold, Flintshire, Wales Edward Mathews Son - Male 4 1847 - Mold, Flintshire, Wales Elizabeth Mathews Daughter - Female 1 1850 - - Ann Jones - Unmarried Female 40 1811 Charwoman Mold, Flintshire, Wales
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: MATTHEWS, EDWARD JONES GRO Reference: 1847 J Quarter in HOLYWELL Volume 27 Page 241 -------------- 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Wrexham Street, Mold, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Mathews Head Married Male 42 1819 Stage carrier Mold, Flintshire, Wales Barbra Mathews Wife - Female 43 1818 - Mold, Flintshire, Wales Edward Mathews Son - Male 13 1848 Scholar Mold, Flintshire, Wales Elizabeth Mathews Daughter - Female 11 1850 Scholar Mold, Flintshire, Wales John Mathews Son - Male 9 1852 Scholar Mold, Flintshire, Wales Margaret Mathews Daughter - Female 6 1855 Scholar Mold, Flintshire, Wales Mathew Mathews Son - Male 4 1857 Scholar Mold, Flintshire, Wales Harriet Mathews Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Mold, Flintshire, Wales
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30 Aug 2022 15:30 |
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Wrexham Street, Mold, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place William Mathews Male 20 1821 Flintshire, Wales Coal Miner Barbara Mathews Female 20 1821 Flintshire, Wales
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30 Aug 2022 15:32 |
?? Flintshire Baptisms Mold, Flintshire, Wales
First name(s) William Last name Matthews Birth date ? ? 1820 Birth year 1820 Baptism year 1820 Baptism date 14 May 1820 Father's first name(s) Matthew Father's last name Matthews Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Place Mold County Flintshire Country Wales Page 176 Record set Flintshire Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from Wales, Great Britain Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru
no further info on image
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30 Aug 2022 15:37 |
?? Flintshire Baptisms Mold, Flintshire, Wales
First name(s) Barbara Last name Jones Birth year 1825 Birth date ? ? 1825 Baptism year 1825 Baptism date 06 Aug 1825 Place Mold Father's first name(s) Edward Mother's first name(s) Mary Page 307 County Flintshire Country Wales Record set Flintshire Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from Wales, Great Britain Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru © Findmypast
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greyghost
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30 Aug 2022 15:40 |
Use this free site to look for births with Mother's maiden name from Q3 1937 onwards https://www.gro.gov.uk (freebmd only gives mmn from Q3 1911)
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30 Aug 2022 15:44 |
? 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Wrexham Street, Mold, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Mathew Mathews Male 45 1796 Flintshire, Wales Coal Miner Elizabeth Mathews Female 45 1796 Flintshire, Wales Charlotte Mathews Female 15 1826 Flintshire, Wales Edward Mathews Male 11 1830 Flintshire, Wales Arabella Mathews Female 7 1834 Flintshire, Wales Ann Jones Female 40 1801 Flintshire, Wales
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Marie
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30 Aug 2022 15:59 |
Thank you so much for this you have been extremely helpful.
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greyghost
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30 Aug 2022 16:01 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Bryncoch Cottage, Mold, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Mathew Head Married Male 64 1817 - Mold, Flintshire, Wales Barbra Mathew Wife Married Female 58 1823 - Mold, Flintshire, Wales John Mathew Son Single Male 32 1849 Coal miner Mold, Flintshire, Wales Henrietta Jones Grand daughter Single Female 11 1870 Schoolar Mold, Flintshire, Wales John J Matthew Grand son Single Male 4 1877 Schoolar -
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greyghost
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30 Aug 2022 16:12 |
Barbara widowed by 1891 if correct family. Her place of birth different and son John's age out
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Bryncoch Glanrafon, Mold, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Barbara Mathews Head Widow Female 73 1818 - Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales John Mathews Son Single Male 34 1857 Gas works laborer Flintshire, Wales William J Mathews Grandson Single Male 15 1876 Slaters laborer Mold, Flintshire, Wales
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30 Aug 2022 16:23 |
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%) Matthews Barbara 73 Holywell 11b 211
Not found William's death unless -
William and Barbara married in Bistre - there is this and as ages seem to vary in the family records .........
Flintshire Burials Bistre, Flintshire, Wales
First name(s) William Last name Mathews Age 64 Birth year 1822 Burial year 1886 Burial date 26 Jun 1886 Place Bistre Parish Bistre County Flintshire Country Wales Page 210 Archive year range - Record set Flintshire Burials Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Burials Collections from Wales, Great Britain
from the image - Abode - Bryncoch Mold
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First name(s) Barbara Last name Matthews County Flintshire Age 73 Birth year 1819 Burial year 1892 Burial date 20 Jan 1892 Place Bistre Parish Bistre County Flintshire Country Wales Page 244 Archive year range - Record set Flintshire Burials Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Burials Collections from Wales, Great Britain Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru
From image - Abode Bryn-Coch
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