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Albert Wright

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Teresa

Teresa Report 4 Aug 2022 11:26

Hi, am looking for a friend's Grandfather. Albert Wright born 12/6/1889 at Holbeach, Lincs. He comes up on the 1901 census as 11 years old with Father Charles,42, wife Rebecca 33 and Alberts siblings Alfred 21, Fanny 17, Bertie 16, and Millicent 14. My friend remembers the names of Bertie, Millie and Alf as being her Grandfathers siblings so I'm pretty sure on the right track.
Going back to 1891 census, Charles 33, but wife is Emma33, with Alfred11, Mabel 9 ,Fanny 7, Bertie 5, Millicent 3 but no Albert!! I have tried various ways of finding Albert but no luck. Obviously he must be somewhere if he was born in 1889 and that is his correct date of birth, been checked.
I did find a death for an Emma Ann Wright, June qtr 1892 age 35 in Holbeck also on same page a baby Florence Mary born and died, so Emma possibly died in childbirth??
We would be very grateful for some help. Thank you, Teresa

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Aug 2022 12:04

Florence Mary wasn't Emma's child:

WRIGHT, FLORENCE MARY mmn WOODS
GRO Reference: 1892 J Quarter in HOLBEACH Volume 07A Page 433


Emma's name was Walton.

Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)
WALTON Emma Holbeach 7a 571
Wright Charles Holbeach 7a 571



WRIGHT, ALBERT mmn WALTON
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in HOLBEACH Volume 07A Page 392 Occasional Copy: A

WRIGHT, MILLICENT mmn WALTON
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in HOLBEACH Volume 07A Page 407

WRIGHT, FANNY mmn WALTON
GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in SPALDING Volume 07A Page 406

WRIGHT, BERTIE mmn WALTON
GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in SPALDING Volume 07A Page 411


WRIGHT, MABEL mmn WALTON
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in SPALDING Volume 07A Page 370



Charles's second marriage ???:

Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%)
Vickers Rebecca Spalding 7a 606
Wright Charles Spalding 7a 606


Two children who died:

WRIGHT, MAUD VICKERS
GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in SPALDING Volume 07A Page 409

Deaths Dec 1896 (>99%)
Wright Maud 0 Spalding 7a 237


WRIGHT, ROSE VICKERS
GRO Reference: 1894 S Quarter in SPALDING Volume 07A Page 359

Deaths Sep 1894 (>99%)
Wright Rose 0 Spalding 7a 191

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Aug 2022 12:07

You say Albert's not on the 1891 census.
Yes, he is!


Albert Wright
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Albert Wright
Gender: Male
Age: 1
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1890
Father:
Charles Wright
Mother:
Emma Wright
Birth Place: Whaplode, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Whaplode
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Residence Place: Saracens Head, Whaplode, Lincolnshire, England
Registration district: Holbeach
Sub registration district: Holbeach
ED, Institution or Vessel: 16
Neighbors:
Piece: 2569
Folio: 167
Household Members Age Relationship
Charles Wright 33 Head
Emma Wright 33 Wife
Alfred Wright 11 Son
Mabel Wright 9 Daughter
Fanny Wright 7 Daughter
Bertie Wright 5 Son
Melicent Wright 3 Daughter
Albert Wright 1 Son
Charles Walton 75 Visitor

Teresa

Teresa Report 4 Aug 2022 12:07

Thankyou ArgyllGran.

Teresa

Teresa Report 4 Aug 2022 12:09

Thanks again, I will just have me lunch and get back to it, must need my eyes testing!!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Aug 2022 12:20

For our reference, the burial of the Emma Ann you mention:

Emma Ann Wright
in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
Name: Emma Ann Wright
Gender: Female
Death Age: 35
Birth Date: 1857
Death Date: abt 1892
Burial Date: 3 May 1892
Burial Place: Holbeach, Lincoln, England
FHL Film Number: 1542149

You'd need to get a copy of the death cert to know for sure if she's the right Emma.

BUT -
Emma has no middle name quoted in 1891, 1881, 1871 (as Walton), 1861 (as Waltham), nor at marriage or birth.

WALTER, EMMA mmn COCKER
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in HOLBEACH Volume 07A Page 307 .

Births Sep 1856 (>99%)
Walton Emma Holbeach 7a 307


Parents: Charles Walton/Waltham/Walter and Frances Cocker/Cooker.

alviegal

alviegal Report 4 Aug 2022 12:23

Whaplode. — May 1, the Saracen's Head, Emma Ann wife of Charles Wright, 35.
06 May 1892 - Stamford Mercury - Stamford, Lincolnshire, England

Does not expand on how she died.

Teresa

Teresa Report 4 Aug 2022 14:02

Thank-you all for the info, just a note to alviegal -
My friend told me last night that " May had the Saracen's Head pub in Holbeach!" she does not know who May was just one of the names in the family that were on the Wright side somewhere. Teresa

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Aug 2022 15:25

"May" is Abert's sister Mabel.


Mabel Reid
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Mabel Reid
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 25 Oct 1881
Residence Date: 1939
Address: The Old Saraclu's Head Inn <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Residence Place: East Elloe, Lincolnshire (Parts of Holland), England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 21
Schedule Number: 61
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: Thel
Borough: East Elloe
Registration district: Whaplode-Saracen's Head
Inferred Spouse:
Sydney Reid
Household Members Age
Sydney Reid 63 - Licensed victualler and land worker.
Mabel Reid 58
Edna M Johnson 24
This record is officially closed.


Mabel Reid
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Mabel Reid
Death Age: 80
Birth Date: abt 1882
Registration Date: Apr 1962[May 1962] [Jun 1962]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: East Elloe
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 37


WRIGHT, MABEL mmn WALTON
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in SPALDING Volume 07A Page 370



??
Mabel Reid
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Mabel Reid
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Sutton St Edmunds, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Nuneaton
Country: England
Street Address: 107 Croft Rd Stockingford Nuneaton
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Shop Assistant Drapery
Registration District Number: 388
Sub-registration District: Nuneaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Piece: 18471
Household Members:
Name Age
William Armstrong 31
Mabel Reid 30
Susannah J Thompson 72



???
Sydney Reid
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Sydney Reid
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Islington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 740
Records on Page:
Name
Sydney Reid
Mabel Wright


Re Old Saracens Head Inn, with mention of Mabel, wrongly named as Maud:

https://www.heritagesouthholland.co.uk/article/13989/

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Aug 2022 15:40

Sydney Reid
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Name: Sydney Reid
Death Date: 6 Sep 1954
Death Place: Lincolnshire, Lincoln, England
Probate Date: 22 Aug 1962
Probate Registry: Lincoln, England

REID Sydney of Saracens Head, Whaplode, Lincolnshire died 6 September 1954.
Administration to Lena Grace Barnett (wife of Walter Campbell Barnett). Effects £356 4s.


Marriages Jun 1936 (>99%)
Barnett Walter C Reid E. Elloe 7a 1213
Reid Lena G Barnett E.Elloe 7a 1213


Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
Reid Lena G Wright Edmonton 3a 947

Teresa

Teresa Report 4 Aug 2022 19:45

Wow, thank-you very much.
Is there any chance of the 1861 census for Charles Wright born c1857 in Essex.
Thank-you Teresa

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Aug 2022 21:44

???

Charles Wright
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Charles Wright
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Wright
Mother's Name: Susan Wright
Gender: Male
Where born: Stratford, Essex, England
Civil parish: Holbeach
Ecclesiastical parish: Lincoln
Town: Holbeach
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Holbeach
Sub-registration district: Holbeach
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 16
Piece: 2329
Folio: 70
Page number: 4
Household Members Age Relationship
John Wright 31 Head - Stratford, Essex
Susan Wright 30 Wife - Holbeach
Emma Wright 10 Daughter - Stratford
Matilda Wright 8 Daughter - Stratford
Charles Wright 4 Son - Stratford


1871 says Charles born Holbeach; 1881 says born Gravesend; 1891 and 1901 say Grays, Essex;

Teresa

Teresa Report 5 Aug 2022 17:56

Thank-you very much, I was a bit muddled with the difference of the birth places. :-S

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Aug 2022 20:02

Can't find births for Charles or his sisters Emma and Matilda listed in 1861 above.

But birth registration wasn't compusory in England until 1875.


Other siblings in 1871:

Mary Ann Wright
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Wright
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: 1868
Relation: Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Holbeach
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Holbeach
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Holbeach
Sub-registration district: Holbeach
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 90
Piece: 3330
Folio: 77
Page number: 16
Household Members Age Relationship
Susan Wright 39 Head
Charles Wright 13 Son
Elizabeth Wright 7 Daughter
Mary Ann Wright 3 Daughter
Ellen Wright 10/12 Daughter


WRIGHT, MARY ANN mmn COOK
GRO Reference: 1867 S Quarter in HOLBEACH Volume 07A Page 340

WRIGHT, ELIZABETH ANN mmn COOK
GRO Reference: 1863 J Quarter in HOLBEACH Volume 07A Page 374


WRIGHT, ELLEN mmn COOK
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in HOLBEACH Volume 07A Page 382

Can't see a marriage of a John Wright and Susan Cook.

1861 - Susan said to be born Holbeach.
1871 (if it's the same family as in 1861) - says she was born in Essex.
1881 - Dunmore (?), Kent. [ There doesn't seem to be any such place.]
1891 - Essex
1901 - Chelmsford, Essex

Teresa

Teresa Report 7 Aug 2022 18:28

Hi ArgyllGran,
Thank you for this extra, will pass it all on to Diane, she will be very pleased to get this information. Teresa.