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1871 look up please

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Jane

Jane Report 24 Jun 2022 22:28

Thank you so much for sorting out that problem for me. I seemed to be going tround in circles and not getting anywhere.

Thanks again

Jane

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Jun 2022 21:12

1871 and the family have also moved to Plumstead.

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Ann Street, Plumstead, Woolwich, London & Kent, England

Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Pearson Head
- Male 48 1823 - Kent, England
Mary Pearson Wife
- Female 46 1825 - Kent, England
Richard Pearson Son
- Male 15 1856 - Kent, England
Frances Pearson Daughter
- Female 6 1865 - Kent, England


PEARSON, RICHARD ROBERT BISSELL
GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in GRAVESEND Volume 02A Page 342

PEARSON, FRANCES JANE BISSELL
GRO Reference: 1865 S Quarter in LEWISHAM UNION Volume 01D Page 743


and your William E is in the same street.


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Ann Street, Plumstead, Woolwich, London & Kent, England

Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William E Pearson Head
- Male 22 1849 - Kent, England
Elizabeth Pearson Wife
- Female 21 1850 - Kent, England
William E J Pearson Son
- Male 3 1868 - Kent, England
Louisa E Pearson Daughter
- Female 1 1870 - Kent, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Jun 2022 20:20

This is the William b 1848 in Medway.

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
8, High Street, Chatham, Medway, Kent, England
View original recordHousehold members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Pearson Wife
Married Female 26 1825 Wife of mariner Spitalfield, Middlesex, England
Thomas Pearson Son
- Male 7 1844 Scholar Chatham, Kent, England
William Pearson Son
- Male 2 1849 - Chatham, Kent, England
Elizabeth Pearson Daughter
- Female 0 1851 - Chatham, Kent, England


Father George and mother Mary Bissell.

PEARSON, ELIZABETH CHARLOTTE ANN BISSELL
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in MEDWAY Volume 05 Page 459

BISSELL, THOMAS EDWARD -
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in MEDWAY Volume 05 Page 387



First name(s) Elizabeth Charlotta Ann
Archive Medway Archives
Last name Pearson
Archive reference P85/1/33
Baptism year 1851
Register type Baptisms
Baptism date 12 Feb 1851
Year range 1849-1852
Father's first name(s) George
Page 91
Father's occupation Bargeman
Original record link https://cityark.medway.gov.uk/wwwopacx/wwwopac.ashx?command=getcontent&server=files&value=P085-01-31(2).pdf
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Record set Kent Baptisms
Residence Chatham
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place Chatham, St Mary
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
County Kent


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Bakers Shop, The Village, Plumstead, Lewisham, London & Kent, England

Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Pearson Head
Married Male 44 1817 Labourer ... Peckham, Surrey, England
May Pearson Wife
Married Female 40 1821 - -
Elizabeth Pearson Daughter
- Female 10 1851 Scholar Chatham, Kent, England
Richard Pearson Son
- Male 5 1856 - Chatham, Kent, England
James Pearson Son
- Male 2 1859 - Gravesend, Kent, England
Sarah Pearson Daughter
- Female 0 1861 - Kent, England

Jane

Jane Report 24 Jun 2022 19:44

Thank you so much for all that information. There is a lot there for me to go through. You have all been really kind and helpful.

I will have to continue looking for his parents names.

All the best

Jane.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Jun 2022 19:21

William E Pearson
in the 1891 England Census
Name: William E Pearson
Gender: Male
Age: 47
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1844
Spouse:
Elizabeth E Pearson
Child:
William E J Pearson
Thomas E Pearson
Edward J Pearson
Birth Place: Chatham, Kent, England
Civil parish: Plumstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
Residence Place: Plumstead, London, England
Registration district: Woolwich
Sub registration district: Plumstead, East
ED, Institution or Vessel: 17
Neighbors:
Piece: 540
Folio: 82
Household Members Age Relationship
William E Pearson 47 Head
Elizabeth E Pearson 50 Wife
William E J Pearson 25 Son
Thomas E Pearson 18 Son
Edward J Pearson 10 Son
Thomas R Sargent 5 Grandson


??
Births Jun 1867 (>99%)
Pearson William Edward J P Lewisham 1d 830

Can't find that birth on GRO, so don't know mmn.

??
PEARSON, THOMAS EDWARD mmn TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1872 S Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 962


First marriage for William senior ??

Marriages Sep 1867 (>99%)
PEARSON William Edward Lewisham 1d 1215
TAYLOR Elizabeth Lewisham 1d 1215


Ah, I see what you mean about his father's name(s):

William Edward Pearson
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
Name: William Edward Pearson
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 11 Aug 1867
Marriage Place: St Nicholas, Plumstead, Greenwich, England
Father: Joseph Pearson, labourer
Spouse: Elizabeth Taylor [ father: George Taylor, smith ]
Register Type: Parish Register


Death of first wife:

Elizabeth Jane Pearson
in the London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-2003
Name: Elizabeth Jane Pearson
Death Age: 29
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1848
Death Date: Abt 1877
Burial Date: 24 Aug 1877
Burial Place: St Margaret, Plumstead, Greenwich, England
Register Type: Parish Register


Elizabeth before marriage:

Elizabeth J Taylor
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Elizabeth J Taylor
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: 1848
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Taylor
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Taylor
Gender: Female
Where born: Plumstead, Kent, England
Civil parish: Plumstead
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Lewisham
Sub-registration district: Plumstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 51
Piece: 408
Folio: 31
Page number: 9
Household Members Age Relationship
George Taylor 37 Head
Elizabeth Taylor 39 Wife
Elizabeth J Taylor 13 Daughter
George S Taylor 12 Son
Sarah A Taylor 10 Daughter
William H Taylor 8 Son
Samuel J Taylor 18 Son
Lieniga E Taylor 2 Daughter

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 24 Jun 2022 19:02

Re the fbmd 1848 birth that Names mentioned, Medway RD covering both Rochester and Chatham, and that birth also tallying with age in 1871 ( though maybe 27 got mistranscribed as 22 when the numerator collated the household forms)...

GRO has mmn BISSELL for that birth.

Have not found a Pearson- Bissell marriage to rule this birth in or out.

Can anyone find a marriage with groom named Joseph or George Pearson, or definitely named somthing else?

Pearson William Edward BISSELL D qtr 1848 Medway 5 386

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Jun 2022 18:37

??

William E Pearson
in the 1871 England Census
Name: William E Pearson
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: 1849
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochester Kent England
Civil parish: Plumstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Plumstead, East
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 225
Piece: 793
Folio: 23
Page number: 40
Household Members Age Relationship
William E Pearson 22 Head
Elizabeth Pearson 21 Wife
William E I Pearson 3 Son
Louisa E Pearson 1 Daughter



William E. Pearson
in the 1881 England Census
Name: William E. Pearson
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Elizabeth Pearson
Gender: Male
Where Born: Chatham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Plumstead
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 32 Garland St
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Labr In Iron Wks
Registration District: Woolwich
Sub registration district: Plumstead, East
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors:
Piece: 754
Folio: 115
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
William E. Pearson 37
Elizabeth Pearson 39
Charles Shortland 18 - stepson
William Pearson 14 - son
Ellen Shortland 13 - stepdaughter
Louisa Pearson 11 - daughter
Joseph Shortland 12 - stepson
Thomas Pearson 10 - son
Louisa A. Shortland 10 - stepdaughter
Edward J. Pearson - 11 mths - son

Elizabeth Emma Shortland
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
Name: Elizabeth Emma Shortland [Elizabeth Emma Ward]
Gender: Female [ widow]
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 31 Dec 1883
Marriage Place: St Nicholas, Plumstead, Greenwich, England
Father: Henry Ward , engraver
Spouse: William Edward Pearson - widower [ father - George Pearson, labourer]
Register Type: Parish Register



SHORTLAND, LOUISA ANN mmn WARD
GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 990

SHORTLAND, SARAH ELLEN mmn WARD
GRO Reference: 1868 J Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 842

SHORTLAND, JOSEPH WILLIAM mmn WARD
GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 967


[female] PEARSON, - WARD
GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 689

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 24 Jun 2022 18:05

According to freebmd there is a birth in Medway (covers Rochester) for a William Edward Pearson in 1848

Jane

Jane Report 24 Jun 2022 17:37

Thanks namelessone I have tried to find a birth for him but can't. HIs Fathers name is either George or Joseph Pearson depending on which marriage cert you look at. Probably A transcription error.

As for looking at the trees on Ancestry I will have to wait until I can get to the library to do that.

Thats again for your help

Jane

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 24 Jun 2022 17:19

Looks like they may be in Plumstead with william stating he wa born in Rochester. See the trees on Ancestry.

Jane

Jane Report 24 Jun 2022 17:05

Please can you see if you can find William Edward Pearson b c1844 in Kent ? Chatham
His wife Elizabeth was born Westminster Middlesex

Children include
William Edward Pearson b c1844 Chatham
Louise Pearson b c1870 Plumstead
Thomas born b c1871 Plumsted Kent

I have then on the 1881 and 1891

Thanks
Jane