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Hi, I have a marriage for Samuel Timbrell and Sarah Barnard on 24th October 1871 at Charlton Kings in Gloucester. I wondered if anyone can get the information on Sarah's parents please. I have looked on the IGI but the marriage does not give parents names.
Thank you for any help.
Teresa

Sarah Bechard
in the Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938
Name: Sarah Bechard [ Bernard on image ]
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 20
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1851
Marriage Date: 24 Oct 1871
Marriage Place: Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire, England
Father: Joseph Bechard <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse: Samuel Timbrell [ father William Timbrell ]

Both fathers were plasterers.

Sarah Barnard
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Sarah Barnard
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: 1852
Relation: Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Leckhampton, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub-registration district: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Household schedule number: 123
Piece: 2675
Folio: 28
Page number: 17
Household Members Age Relationship
Joseph Barnard 48 Head - Shurdington, Glos. - plasterer
Sarah Barnard 44 Wife - Painswick, Glos. - laundress
Sarah Barnard 19 Daughter
Richard Barnard 17 Son
Fanny Barnard 15 Daughter
Emma Barnard 11 Daughter
William Twining 75 Boarder
Hannah Twining 74 Boarder


All the children born in Leckhampton.

Thank-you very much ArgyllGran

Sarah Barnard in 1861
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
7, Edward Street, Leckhampton, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Barnard Head Married Male 37 1824 Plasterer Leckhampton, Gloucestershire, England
Ann Barnard Wife Married Female 34 1827 Laundress Leckhampton, Gloucestershire, England
George Barnard Son - Male 13 1848 Scholar Gloucestershire, England
Sarah Barnard Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Gloucestershire, England
Richard Barnard Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Gloucestershire, England
Fanny Barnard Daughter - Female 5 1856 Scholar Gloucestershire, England
Emily Barnard Daughter - Female 2 1859 Scholar Gloucestershire, England
Hannah Barnard Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Gloucestershire,

All born Leckhampton

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Looks like Sarah hadn't been named when she was registered


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BARNARD, - TIBBLES
GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in THE CHELTENHAM UNION Volume 11 Page 206

BARNARD, EMILY ELIZA TIBBLES
GRO Reference: 1858 D Quarter in CHELTENHAM Volume 06A Page 343

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1846 (>99%)
Barnard Joseph Cheltenham 11 268
Tibbles Ann Cheltenham 11 268


http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MarriageSearch.aspx

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
BARNARD Joseph TIBBLES Ann Cheltenham Cheltenham St Mary 1846 5 107

Thank-you greyghost for your information

Joseph Barnard
in the Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938

Name: Joseph Barnard
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: Full Age
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 10 Oct 1846
Marriage Place: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
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Father: Richard Barnard
Spouse: Ann Tibbles

from original
Both of full age, Bachelor and Spinster. He was a Gardener, both of Bath Road.

Father's names seem to have been mixed up -
Joseph's Father shown as Richard Barnard a Gardener
Ann's Father shown as Richard Barnard a Plasterer

Witnesses - William Barnard and Ann Tibbles

BARNARD, GEORGE mmn TIBBLES
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in THE CHELTENHAM UNION Volume 11 Page 175

BARNARD, RICHARD mmn TIBBLES
GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in CHELTENHAM Volume 06A Page 348


BARNARD, - mmn TIBBLES
GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in THE CHELTENHAM UNION Volume 11 Page 206


BARNARD, EMILY ELIZA mmn TIBBLES
GRO Reference: 1858 D Quarter in CHELTENHAM Volume 06A Page 343

BARNARD, HANNAH MARIA mmn TIBBLES
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in CHELTENHAM Volume 06A Page 373


But: - a son who is with Joseph and Sarah in 1881 and 1891

BARNARD, WILLIAM JOSEPH mmn TWINING
GRO Reference: 1873 M Quarter in CHELTENHAM Volume 06A Page 452


William & Hannah Twining are on 1871 census posted above, aged 75 and 74, presumably Joseph's parents-in-law.

Thank you all, I am retiring now as some of this is a bit in need of concentration and am tired, so will come back to it in the morning.

1851 and 1861, Joseph's wife is Ann, born Leckhampton per 1861.

1871 onwards, his wife is Sarah, born Painswick.


Sarah Twining
in the Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1913
Name: Sarah Twining
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Jul 1826
Baptism Place: Painswick, Gloucestershire, England
Father: William Twining
Mother: Hannah Twining

No sign of a second marriage for Joseph.

Maybe Sarah was married already?? Or maybe Ann was still living?

???
Sarah Twining
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Sarah Twining
Registration Year: 1847
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Stroud
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 511
Records on Page:
Name
Sarah Twining
Sarah Berry
Catharine Charlotte Cartwright
Thomas Dudbridge
William Seth Smith
Samuel Young


Sarah Berry married Thomas Dudridge, per later censuses.
Catherine Cartwirght married William Seth Smith, per later censuses.

So Sarah Twining married Samuel Young.

Hmmm - interesting.

Probably not that 1847 marriage - unless they'd separated and she'd reverted to her maiden name by 1851..

In 1851 Sarah is servant to the Tibbles family - ie - Ann's birth family.

Sarah Twining
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Sarah Twining
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where Born: Painswick, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Cheltenham
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County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: Cheltenham
Sub-registration District: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1gg
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 130
Piece: 1973
Folio: 863
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Tibbles 47
Phebe Tibbles 38
Richard Tibbles 22
John Tibbles 20
Eliza Tibbles 18
Sarah Twining 24

Ann's death?? Age is a few years out, so maybe not:

BARNARD, ANN 35
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in CHELTENHAM Volume 06A Page 317

In 1841 census her birth is c1827, in 1851 census it's c1825, and in 1861 it's c1827.



Ann Tibbles
Principal
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Christening 27 August 1826
Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire, England, United Kingdom
Parents: Richard Tibbles, Phebe

Hi ArgyllGran,
I was also confused by the different name of Joseph Barnard's wife in the two census records last night, going to try and make sense of it now I've got an hour to spare. Thank-you so much for your help.