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Lost Uncle James Irvine

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jun 2022 12:17

Re the younger brother George -

I guess this MAY be his birth:

IRVINE
GEORGE HENRY
M
1898
005/1 38
Lerwick

But that's no help with James!

Can't see George in 1901.

EDIT:
Maybe not his birth above.
There's a George H Irvine, 1898 Lerwick, with parents Charles and Mary, in 1901 census.


EDIT AGAIN:

No - George was born in 1902.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jun 2022 11:51

PM from Neil with more info:

"his mother was Ann Brown Irvine (Nee Henry) they lived in Gulberwick but like your list I have not been able too find his birth Cert. This make me wonder whether he was actually born away from Shetland. James had a younger brother in Canada (George) who had the same birth day date and he apparently sent a birthday card to George for many years"



Possible marriage of parents:

HENRY
ANN
IRVINE
WILLIAM
1888
005/ 2
Lerwick


Ann's death:

IRVINE
ANN BROWN
70
1932
005/1 51
Lerwick




Ann Irvine
in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name: Ann Irvine
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Brindister, Shetland
Registration Number: 5
Registration district: Lerwick
Civil parish: Lerwick and Gulberwick
County: Shetland
Address: Sound Road Cottage
Occupation: Sailor's Wife
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 19
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1891_2
Household Members Age Relationship
Ann Irvine 29 Head
Wm Irvine 2 Son - Gulberwick


The son William went to NZ (at least all Ancestry's suggestions indicate that), and there are various records for him there - marriage (1910), army, death:

William Irvine
in the New Zealand, World War I Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: William Irvine
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 28 Oct 1888
Birth Place: Shetland Islands, North of Scotland
Enlistment Date: 9 Mar 1916
Next of Kin: Mrs W Irvine
Next of Kin Relationship: Wife
Spouse: W Irvine
Service Number: WW1 14641


New Zealand, Cemetery Records, 1800-2007

William Irvine
Death Age 62
Birth Date 1888
Death Date 11 Dec 1950
Death Place Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand
Cemetery Andersons Bay
Burial Place Dunedin, Otago, Otago, New Zealand


Cemetery record says he was a pensioner, resident of 109 Melbourne Street. Born Shetland Island; lived 47 years in province . Died at Dunedin Public Hospital. Ashes taken by relatives.


I don't see Ann or William in 1901.

Nor James anywhere, at any time.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Jun 2022 11:29

?

James Irvine
in the New Zealand, World War I Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: James Irvine
Birth Date: 18 Jun 1894
Birth Place: Shetland Islands, Scotland
Enlistment Date: 7 Mar 1916
Occ sailor
Next of Kin: Mrs M Irvine
Next of Kin Relationship: Mother
Mother:
M Irvine
Service Number: WW1 14642

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jun 2022 10:02

Did he have a middle name?
Who was his mother and where did she live?

These are the only James Irvines registered in Shetland 1893-5:

IRVINE
JAMES MAGNUS
M
1893
006/1 15
Yell (Mid and South)


IRVINE
JAMES WILLIAM
M
1895
011/ 1
Unst


IRVINE
JAMES JOHN
M
1895
002/ 5
Delting


IRVINE
JAMES
M
1893
001/ 12
Bressay

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 22 Jun 2022 09:55

As 1919 would be in the midst of the Spanish flu epidemic you also need to consider that he died.
Find my past has the National Archives records of deaths at sea. These may include Scottish sailors. He may have been signed off at any port due to flu, possibly dying there.
It is important to know his ship.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jun 2022 09:16

How much research have you done yourself? No point in duplicating

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 22 Jun 2022 09:05

Do you know what ship he signed on for and when was it due to depart/ arrive.?

Have you looked for records of merchant seaman?

Neil

Neil Report 22 Jun 2022 00:39

Trying to find what happened to my great uncle who sailed from NZ as 1st Mate aboard a ship in 1919 heading for Port Townsend, He sent a letter home to his mother in Shetland he expected to be home when he could get a ship but was not heard of. He was born in 1894 in Shetland Isles Scotland.