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asking for a relative trying to find their fathers side of the tree
ronald w mummery married 1962 to a june m crewes in southwark London
ronald mother alice a carey married 1933 William h mummery born 1907
Ronald born 1938


many thanks it would so helpful to the family if they could find out anything to mummery line

Is this William (born 1907) in the 1911 census? :-

2 Albert Cottages Marlborough Road Old Kent Road, Camberwell, London & Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

William Mummery Head Married Male 27 1884 Railway porter London Stoke Newington
Emily Mummery Wife Married Female 27 1884 - London Stratford
William Mummery Son - Male 4 1907 - London Clapton<<<<<<<<<<
Lionel Mummery Son - Male 2 1909 - London Clapton
John Mummery Son - Male 0 1911 - London Camberwell

Kath. x

William H. Mummery is in Newington with 8 other people in the 1921 census but it is pay per view to see the d e tails.

Kath. x

You can use the GRO to find births which will show mmn too pre 1911

MUMMERY, WILLIAM HENRY RUDDELL
GRO Reference: 1907 D Quarter in SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 143

So mmn was Ruddell

After 1911 you can also use Freebmd to find births which will show mmn and then back to try and find a possible marriage searching with the surname combinations


So using the surnames

Marriages Dec 1902
Mummery Alfred Ernest Southwark 1d 284
Ruddell Elizabeth Louisa Southwark 1d 284

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Alfred Ernest Mummery
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1882
Marriage Date: 1 Dec 1902
Marriage Place: St Paul, Lorrimore Square, Southwark, England
Father:
Charles Mummery
Spouse:
Elizabeth Louisa Ruddell
Register Type: Parish Register
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Name: Elizabeth Louisa Ruddell
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 18
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1884
Marriage Date: 1 Dec 1902
Marriage Place: St Paul, Lorrimore Square, Southwark, England
Father:
John Henry Ruddell
Spouse:
Alfred Ernest Mummery
Register Type: Parish Register


Name: Alfred E Mummery
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: CAMBERWELL, London, England
Civil Parish: Newington St Mary
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Country: England
Street Address: 4 Osborn Street, Walworth London, S E
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Labourer Borough Council
Registration District Number: 23
Sub-registration District: Newington North
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Piece: 1816
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred E Mummery 30
Elizabeth S Mummery 25
Rose F Mummery 7
Violet E Mummery 5
William W Mummery 3
Kate E Mummery 1
Ernest H Ruddell 23 brother in law


Married 8 years 5 children born 4 still living

MUMMERY, ELIZABETH KATE RUDDELL
GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 437
MUMMERY, ROSE FLORENCE RUDDELL
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 142
MUMMERY, VIOLET ELIZABETH RUDDELL
GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 140
MUMMERY, WILLIAM HENRY RUDDELL
GRO Reference: 1907 D Quarter in SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 143
MUMMERY, KATE ELLEN RUDDELL
GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 142


Death

MUMMERY, ELIZABETH KATE 0
GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 252

And

Marriages Sep 1933
Carey Alice A Mummery Southwark 1d 181
Mummery William H Carey Southwark 1d 181

1939 register

1939 Register
40 Sutherland Square, Walworth, Southwark, Southwark, London, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
William H Mummery 15 Nov 1907 Male Tram Conductor Married 59 1
Alice A Mummery 30 Apr 1909 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 59 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.


So two children who are closed records


Births Jun 1934
Mummery Joan A Carey Southwark 1d 87
Births Dec 1938
Mummery Ronald W Carey Southwark 1d 71


Name: William Henry Mummery
Death Age: 66
Birth Date: 15 Nov 1907
Registration Date: Apr 1974
[May 1974]
[Jun 1974]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Lambeth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 14
Page: 0177


Name: Alice Anne Mummery
Death Age: 77
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1909
Registration Date: Sep 1986
Registration District: Camberwell
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 11
Page: 1269

Name: Alfred Ernest Mummery
Register Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1953
Burial or Cremation Date: 15 Jan 1953
Burial or Cremation Place: Southwark, London, England
URL: https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=10582837


Name: Elizabeth Louisa Mummery
Register Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1949
Burial or Cremation Date: 9 Dec 1949
Burial or Cremation Place: Southwark, London, England
URL: https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=10574237


1939 register

Ernest A Mummery
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Name: Ernest A Mummery
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 7 Jan 1881
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 265
Residence Place: Lambeth, London, England
Occupation: Borough Council Labr (Dis
Line Number: 18
Schedule Number: 42
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: Anmr
Borough: Lambeth
Registration district: 22/4
Inferred Spouse:
Louisa E Mummery
Inferred Children:
Kate E Mummery
Household Members Age
Ernest A Mummery 58
Louisa E Mummery
53
Kate E Mummery
39
This record is officially closed.
Ernest H Pitt
28


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1921 Census Of England & Wales transcript
Person with no specified gender
Alfred E, Elizabeth L, Rose F and 6 others are on this record
Sample Record transcript
A legible translation of the original record
Shows every occupant’s age, family role and where available, profession


So using freebmd there’s these children birn after 1911


Births Mar 1912
Mummery Lilian L Ruddell Southwark 1d 159
Births Mar 1914
Mummery Florence E Ruddell Southwark 1d 241
Births Sep 1919
Mummery Mary A G Ruddell Southwark 1d 144
Births Mar 1924
Mummery Ivy B Ruddell Southwark 1d 143
Births Jun 1927
Mummery May A Ruddell Southwark 1d 136


So those up to 1919 will be on the 1921 census with the parents

Kate E Mummery
Registration Date: Oct 1959
[Nov 1959]
[Dec 1959]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Spouse: Arthur P Stratton
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 321

Name: Kate Ellen Stratton
Death Age: 81
Birth Date: 20 Nov 1909
Registration Date: Apr 1991
Registration District: Surrey Mid-eastern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 17
Page: 19

Sadly another child died young

Name: Violet E Mummery
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Death Registration Place: Southwark, London, United Kingdom
Death Date: Dec 1911
Inferred Death Place: London, United Kingdom
Volume: 1d
Page: 2

So soon after the 1911census

Name: Rose F Mummery
Registration Date: Oct 1935
[Nov 1935]
[Dec 1935]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Spouse: Alfred Rushworth
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 1646


Name: Rose F Rushworth
Death Age: 59
Birth Date: abt 1904
Registration Date: Oct 1963
[Nov 1963]
[Dec 1963]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 288

thanks everybody for your help will pass info onto relatives

There are numerous Mummery threads - do any of them hold relevant info?

yes some of them will have to check others links thanks

a maybe er
June M
District Bexhill
Last name Mummery
Region South East
Year 2004-22
with ronald mummery