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Marie
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5 Jun 2022 16:07 |
I've only just started looking into her, as I've researched her husband Albert Barr's side, but had nothing else on her. I was just told her name, birth year and place of birth and possible parents were William and Hannah by someone in the family. I do not know if a marriage or birth certificate was obtained
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greyghost
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5 Jun 2022 14:53 |
What other information have you been given
Does anything posted fit what you know (have been told)
Does the person who gave you the information have the 1894 marriage certificate and is that a proved generation.
What are the details from the certificate if available - it will name her Father if she knew him
What makes you think her parents are William and Hannah
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Marie
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5 Jun 2022 14:27 |
I'm just going on info that I was given, they didn't state where they found her as Eliza Ann.
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greyghost
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5 Jun 2022 13:24 |
Where have you found her named as Eliza ANN
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census School Hill, North Dalton, Driffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Albert E Barr Head Married Male 36 1865 General carrier common North Dalton, Yorkshire, England Eliza Barr Wife Married Female 41 1860 - Hatfield, Yorkshire, England Clara Barr Daughter Single Female 11 1890 - North Dalton, Yorkshire, England Rachel Barr Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - North Dalton, Yorkshire, England William Edw Barr Son Single Male 4 1897 - North Dalton, Yorkshire, England Robert Barr Son Single Male 3 1898 - North Dalton, Yorkshire, England Richard D Barr Son Single Male 0 1901 - North Dalton, Yorkshire, England
---------------------------- 1911 Census For England & Wales School Hill North Dalton Driffield, North Dalton, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Albert Edward Barr Head Married Male 46 1865 Common carrier North Dalton Yorks ER Eliza Barr Wife Married Female 55 1856 - Halfield Yorks ER Clara Barr Daughter Single Female 21 1890 Domestic servant geneal North Dalton Yorks ER William Edward Barr Son - Male 14 1897 Fathers assistant North Dalton Yorks ER Robert Barr Son - Male 13 1898 School North Dalton Yorks ER
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1921 census - Eliza, Albert E, William E and 1 other on the record in North Dalton. Born 1856 Hatfield
--------------------------- ?Her death Deaths Mar 1937 (>99%) Barr Eliza 82 Driffield 9d 512
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greyghost
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5 Jun 2022 13:22 |
The marriage record you reference
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%) Barr Albert Edward Driffield 9d 461 Dunn Eliza Driffield 9d 461 Knaggs Mary Driffield 9d 461 Railton David Driffield 9d 461
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ErikaH
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5 Jun 2022 13:13 |
No second forename on the record of the woman’s marriage
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Marie
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5 Jun 2022 13:11 |
Thanks everyone, I'm just going on info another family member gave me. she married Albert Edward Barr in 1894 in Driffield Yorkshire.
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greyghost
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5 Jun 2022 13:03 |
? The above Eliza in 1881
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Oak Cottage, Rise, Skirlaugh, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Needham Head Widower Male 87 1794 Ag labourer Hatfield, Yorkshire, England Eliza Dunn Grand daughter Single Female 24 1857 Housekeeper Hatfield, Yorkshire, England
Likely, as in 1841 ? Grandad John and a Hannah Needham b c1830 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Rise, Skirlaugh, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place John Needham Male 45 1796 Yorkshire, England Ann Needham Female 45 1796 Yorkshire, England Hannah Needham Female 10 1831 Yorkshire, England Maria Needham Female 8 1833 Yorkshire, England Eliza Needham Female 5 1836 Yorkshire, England
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ErikaH
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5 Jun 2022 12:49 |
Did she marry? If so, to whom - and when?
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greyghost
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5 Jun 2022 12:38 |
Original shows family of Great Hatfield. No middle name at baptism
Yorkshire Baptisms Goxhill, Yorkshire (East Riding), England
First name(s) Eliza Last name Dunn Baptism year 1856 Register year range 1600-1871 Baptism date 01 Jun 1856 Father's first name(s) William Mother's first name(s) Hannah Baptism place Goxhill County Yorkshire (East Riding)
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5 Jun 2022 12:34 |
1861 - transcribed as Dann. Still no middle name
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Great Hatfield, Skirlaugh, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Dann Head - Male 32 1829 Agricultural labourer Baunton, Lincolnshire, England Hannah Dann Wife Married Female 31 1830 Agricultural labourers wife Wiston, Yorkshire, England Eliza Dann Daughter - Female 55 1806 Agricultural labourers daughter Hatfield, Yorkshire, England Dugal Dann Son - Male 3 1858 Agricultural labourers son Hatfield, Yorkshire, England William Dann Son - Male 2 1859 Agricultural labourers son Hatfield, Yorkshire, England
William Snr place of birth is Barrow, Lincolnshire (Barrow on Humber probably) Eliza age should read 5 and year of birth should read 1856
Will report incorrect transcription of surname as it is clearly Dunn
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5 Jun 2022 12:31 |
That family in 1871 - in HATFIELD, Yorkshire.
Shows the importance of saying Where. I had immediately thought of Hatfield, Hertfordshire
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Hatfield, Great, Mappleton, Skirlaugh, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Dunn Head - Male 42 1829 - Lincolnshire, England Hannah Dunn Wife - Female 41 1830 - Yorkshire, England William Dunn Son - Male 12 1859 - Yorkshire, England John Dunn Son - Male 11 1860 - Yorkshire, England Helen Ann Dunn Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Yorkshire, England Maria Dunn Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Yorkshire, England George Dunn Son - Male 5 1866 - Yorkshire, England Arthur Dunn Son - Male 3 1868 - Yorkshire, England Herbert Dunn Son - Male 1 1870 - Yorkshire, England
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5 Jun 2022 12:20 |
The daughter of William & Hannah did not have a middle name. There does seem to an Eliza Ann, daughter of James, in the East Ridings with a similar name. ( edit: that should have said age)
If you know you have the right marriage for Eliza Ann then you need her marriage certificate to identify the right father.
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5 Jun 2022 12:16 |
Where have you come across Eliza - can you post census?
The marriage of the couple you suggest
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1855 (>99%) Dunn William Sculcoates 9d 277 NEEDHAM Hannah Sculcoates 9d 277
And early births to them in Skirlaugh RD - East Riding, Yorks
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: DUNN, ELIZA NEEDHAM GRO Reference: 1856 D Quarter in SKIRLAUGH Volume 09D Page 217
DUNN, EDWARD NEEDHAM GRO Reference: 1858 J Quarter in SKIRLAUGH Volume 09D Page 235 DUNN, JOHN NEEDHAM NEEDHAM GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in SKIRLAUGH Volume 09D Page 229 DUNN, WILLIAM NEEDHAM GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in SKIRLAUGH Volume 09D Page 227
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5 Jun 2022 12:12 |
Her birth certificate would give you the names of her parents and fathers occupation which would help you.
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Marie
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5 Jun 2022 12:04 |
I'm looking for info on the parents of Eliza Ann Dunn b. 1856 Hatfield. I believe they were William Dunn b. 1829 Lincoln and Hannah Needham b. 1829 Long Riston. Any help would be appreciated.
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