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Marie

Marie Report 5 Jun 2022 16:07

I've only just started looking into her, as I've researched her husband Albert Barr's side, but had nothing else on her.
I was just told her name, birth year and place of birth and possible parents were William and Hannah by someone in the family.
I do not know if a marriage or birth certificate was obtained

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Jun 2022 14:53

What other information have you been given

Does anything posted fit what you know (have been told)

Does the person who gave you the information have the 1894 marriage certificate and is that a proved generation.

What are the details from the certificate if available - it will name her Father if she knew him

What makes you think her parents are William and Hannah

Marie

Marie Report 5 Jun 2022 14:27

I'm just going on info that I was given, they didn't state where they found her as Eliza Ann.

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Jun 2022 13:24

Where have you found her named as Eliza ANN

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
School Hill, North Dalton, Driffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Albert E Barr Head Married Male 36 1865 General carrier common North Dalton, Yorkshire, England
Eliza Barr Wife Married Female 41 1860 - Hatfield, Yorkshire, England
Clara Barr Daughter Single Female 11 1890 - North Dalton, Yorkshire, England
Rachel Barr Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - North Dalton, Yorkshire, England
William Edw Barr Son Single Male 4 1897 - North Dalton, Yorkshire, England
Robert Barr Son Single Male 3 1898 - North Dalton, Yorkshire, England
Richard D Barr Son Single Male 0 1901 - North Dalton, Yorkshire, England

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1911 Census For England & Wales
School Hill North Dalton Driffield, North Dalton, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Albert Edward Barr Head Married Male 46 1865 Common carrier North Dalton Yorks ER
Eliza Barr Wife Married Female 55 1856 - Halfield Yorks ER
Clara Barr Daughter Single Female 21 1890 Domestic servant geneal North Dalton Yorks ER
William Edward Barr Son - Male 14 1897 Fathers assistant North Dalton Yorks ER
Robert Barr Son - Male 13 1898 School North Dalton Yorks ER

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1921 census
- Eliza, Albert E, William E and 1 other on the record in North Dalton. Born 1856 Hatfield

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?Her death
Deaths Mar 1937 (>99%)
Barr Eliza 82 Driffield 9d 512

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Jun 2022 13:22

The marriage record you reference

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%)
Barr Albert Edward Driffield 9d 461
Dunn Eliza Driffield 9d 461
Knaggs Mary Driffield 9d 461
Railton David Driffield 9d 461

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Jun 2022 13:13

No second forename on the record of the woman’s marriage

Marie

Marie Report 5 Jun 2022 13:11

Thanks everyone, I'm just going on info another family member gave me.
she married Albert Edward Barr in 1894 in Driffield Yorkshire.

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Jun 2022 13:03

? The above Eliza in 1881

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Oak Cottage, Rise, Skirlaugh, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Needham Head Widower Male 87 1794 Ag labourer Hatfield, Yorkshire, England
Eliza Dunn Grand daughter Single Female 24 1857 Housekeeper Hatfield, Yorkshire, England



Likely, as in 1841 ? Grandad John and a Hannah Needham b c1830
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Rise, Skirlaugh, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
John Needham Male 45 1796 Yorkshire, England
Ann Needham Female 45 1796 Yorkshire, England
Hannah Needham Female 10 1831 Yorkshire, England
Maria Needham Female 8 1833 Yorkshire, England
Eliza Needham Female 5 1836 Yorkshire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Jun 2022 12:49

Did she marry?
If so, to whom - and when?

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Jun 2022 12:38

Original shows family of Great Hatfield. No middle name at baptism

Yorkshire Baptisms
Goxhill, Yorkshire (East Riding), England

First name(s) Eliza
Last name Dunn
Baptism year 1856
Register year range 1600-1871
Baptism date 01 Jun 1856
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Hannah
Baptism place Goxhill
County Yorkshire (East Riding)

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Jun 2022 12:34

1861 - transcribed as Dann. Still no middle name

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Great Hatfield, Skirlaugh, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Dann Head - Male 32 1829 Agricultural labourer Baunton, Lincolnshire, England
Hannah Dann Wife Married Female 31 1830 Agricultural labourers wife Wiston, Yorkshire, England
Eliza Dann Daughter - Female 55 1806 Agricultural labourers daughter Hatfield, Yorkshire, England
Dugal Dann Son - Male 3 1858 Agricultural labourers son Hatfield, Yorkshire, England
William Dann Son - Male 2 1859 Agricultural labourers son Hatfield, Yorkshire, England

William Snr place of birth is Barrow, Lincolnshire (Barrow on Humber probably)
Eliza age should read 5 and year of birth should read 1856

Will report incorrect transcription of surname as it is clearly Dunn

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Jun 2022 12:31

That family in 1871 - in HATFIELD, Yorkshire.

Shows the importance of saying Where. I had immediately thought of Hatfield, Hertfordshire

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hatfield, Great, Mappleton, Skirlaugh, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Dunn Head - Male 42 1829 - Lincolnshire, England
Hannah Dunn Wife - Female 41 1830 - Yorkshire, England
William Dunn Son - Male 12 1859 - Yorkshire, England
John Dunn Son - Male 11 1860 - Yorkshire, England
Helen Ann Dunn Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Yorkshire, England
Maria Dunn Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Yorkshire, England
George Dunn Son - Male 5 1866 - Yorkshire, England
Arthur Dunn Son - Male 3 1868 - Yorkshire, England
Herbert Dunn Son - Male 1 1870 - Yorkshire, England

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 5 Jun 2022 12:20

The daughter of William & Hannah did not have a middle name. There does seem to an Eliza Ann, daughter of James, in the East Ridings with a similar name. ( edit: that should have said age)

If you know you have the right marriage for Eliza Ann then you need her marriage certificate to identify the right father.

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Jun 2022 12:16


Where have you come across Eliza - can you post census?

The marriage of the couple you suggest

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1855 (>99%)
Dunn William Sculcoates 9d 277
NEEDHAM Hannah Sculcoates 9d 277

And early births to them in Skirlaugh RD - East Riding, Yorks

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
DUNN, ELIZA NEEDHAM
GRO Reference: 1856 D Quarter in SKIRLAUGH Volume 09D Page 217

DUNN, EDWARD NEEDHAM
GRO Reference: 1858 J Quarter in SKIRLAUGH Volume 09D Page 235

DUNN, JOHN NEEDHAM NEEDHAM
GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in SKIRLAUGH Volume 09D Page 229

DUNN, WILLIAM NEEDHAM
GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in SKIRLAUGH Volume 09D Page 227


nameslessone

nameslessone Report 5 Jun 2022 12:12

Her birth certificate would give you the names of her parents and fathers occupation which would help you.



Marie

Marie Report 5 Jun 2022 12:04

I'm looking for info on the parents of Eliza Ann Dunn b. 1856 Hatfield.
I believe they were William Dunn b. 1829 Lincoln and Hannah Needham b. 1829 Long Riston.
Any help would be appreciated.