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12 Apr 2022 17:48 |
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1921 Census Of England & Wales 53 Gold Street, Mile End Old Town, London & Middlesex, England 1921 census badge Access Image Add to tree Print More actions Household members (7 people) Copy to clipboard First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer Albert Edward Phillips Head Male 1891 29 Seaford, Sussex, England Wood Letter Cutter Caslon & Co 8283 Chiawell St London Ec Lilian G Phillips Wife Female 1889 32 Stepney, London, England - - Albert J Phillips Son Male 1914 7 Stepney, London, England - - Lilian C Phillips Daughter Female 1915 6 Stepney, London, England - - Frederick H Phillips Son Male 1918 3 Stepney, London, England - - William J Phillips Son Male 1920 1 Stepney, London, England - - Robert Edwin Phillips Son Male 1921 - Stepney, London, England - -
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12 Apr 2022 17:42 |
wow - thank you - that should help me along.
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12 Apr 2022 16:39 |
Name: Lilian Jordan Gender: Female Marriage Age: 25 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1888 Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1913 Marriage Place: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney, Tower Hamlets, England Father: Charles Jordan deceased occ soldier Spouse: Albert Edward Phillips Register Type: Parish
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12 Apr 2022 16:35 |
1911 Census For England & Wales 33 Stepney Green E, Mile End Old Town, London & Middlesex, England Clara Phillips Head Married Female 38 1873 Housekeeper London St Georges E John Phillips Son Single Male 16 1895 Messenger London Stepney Clara Phillips Daughter - Female 9 1902 School London Stepney Millie Phillips Daughter - Female 4 1907 - London Stepney
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ErikaH
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12 Apr 2022 16:33 |
Addresses on 1913 Banns His 33 Stepney Green Hers 31 Stepney green
OK
Marriage CERT is on Ancestry
Same addresses as Banns - obviously She SAYS her father was Charles Jordan, DECEASED, Occ Soldier Witnesses: Clara Phillips and George Buck, so no help there
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12 Apr 2022 16:19 |
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Name: Lilian Clara Phillips Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Birth Date: 28 Oct 1914 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 49 Wellesley Street Residence Place: Stepney, London, England Occupation: Showroom Assistant Line Number: 4 Schedule Number: 103 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: Avnh Borough: Stepney Registration district: 18/3 Household Members Age Lilian Clara Phillips 25 Frederick Henry Phillips 21 William John Phillips 19
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Toni
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12 Apr 2022 16:14 |
Thank you. This is for a friend and he is currently looking to see if he has gwendoline birth certificate. As for Lillian and Albert....he know no more than their names and that they lived in Stepney all their lives. But both died before he was born and both gwendoline and her husband have also passed.
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12 Apr 2022 16:13 |
Name: Lilian Clara Phillips Baptism Age: 0 Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 28 Oct 1914 Baptism Date: 8 Jun 1915 Baptism Place: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney High Street, Stepney, Tower Hamlets, England Father: Albert Edward Phillips Mother: Lilian Gertrude Phillips
Name: Lilian Clara Phillips Death Age: 82 Birth Date: 28 Oct 1914 Registration Date: Jul 1997 Registration District: Havering Inferred County: Greater London Register Number: HC83 District and Subdistrict: 2341C Entry Number: 35
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Frederick H Phillips 1918 Stepney, London, England Mile End Old Town Mile End Old Town London, Middlesex
Lilian C Phillips 1915 Stepney, London, England Mile End Old Town Mile End Old Town London, Middlesex
Lilian G Phillips 1889 Stepney, London, England.............BIRTHPLACE - allegedly Mile End Old Town Mile End Old Town London, Middlesex
Robert Edwin Phillips 1921 Stepney, London, England Mile End Old Town Mile End Old Town London, Middlesex
William J Phillips 1920 Stepney, London, England Mile End Old Town Mile End Old Town London, Middlesex
Albert Edward Phillips 1891 Seaford, Sussex, England Mile End Old Town Mile End Old Town London, Middlesex
Albert J Phillips 1914 Stepney, London, England Mile End Old Town Mile End Old Town London, Middlesex
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ErikaH
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12 Apr 2022 15:39 |
JORDAN, LILIAN GERTRUDE WATKINS GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 3
BUT.............the obvious answer is the woman's marriage cert
EDITED 15.57
NOT that birth - her marriage cert is on Ancestry
As there is no obvious record of 'your' Lilian pre-1913, you NEED her marriage cert.
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Toni
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12 Apr 2022 15:37 |
Thank you.
All of that matches. The family believed her to be Leah, but it looks like she was officially Lillian. Might make it easier to trace a birth. The only other time I have come across this is when twins died on the same day in an accident. But, on that occasion I could trace births.
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12 Apr 2022 15:25 |
Marriages Jun 1955 (>99%) LAKEY James W PHILLIPS Stepney 5d 1115 PHILLIPS Gwendoline M LAKEY Stepney 5d 1115
Lakey Gwendoline Maud 14/06/1935 2006 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Eastbourne, Sussex, England
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12 Apr 2022 15:22 |
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2 Cottage, Eton, Eton R.D., Buckinghamshire, England
Lilian G Phillips 13 May 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 50 1 The record for this person is officially closed.
Gwendoline (M) Lakey (Phillips) 14 Jun 1935 Female At School Single 50 3 Honorah M Barron 23 Jun 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 50 4 The record for this person is officially closed.
John James (William) McBarron (Barron) 04 Jun 1937 Male Under School Age Single 50 6 The record for this person is officially closed.
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12 Apr 2022 15:17 |
Name: Lilian G Jordan Admission Age: 25 Record Type: Admission Birth Date: 1888 Admission Date: 2 Oct 1913 Admission Place: Tower Hamlets, Stepney, London, England
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12 Apr 2022 15:13 |
Deaths Sep 1959 (>99%) PHILLIPS Leah G 70 Stepney 5d 481 PHILLIPS Lilian G 70 Stepney 5d 481
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12 Apr 2022 15:04 |
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Marriages Dec 1913 (>99%) Jordan Lilian Phillips Stepney 1c 593 Phillips Albert E Jordan Stepney 1c 593
Name: Albert Edward Phillips Gender: Male Marriage Banns Age: 22 Record Type: Bann Birth Date: abt 1891 Marriage Banns Date: 1913 Marriage Banns Place: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney, Tower Hamlets, England Spouse: Lilian Jordan.............Age 25 Register Type: Parish Register
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ErikaH
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12 Apr 2022 15:04 |
Siblings?
Births Dec 1926 (>99%) Phillips Harold S Jordan Stepney 1c 366 Scan available - click to view Births Mar 1928 (>99%) Phillips Kenneth D Jordan Stepney 1c 430 Scan available - click to view Births Dec 1929 (>99%) Phillips Irene M Jordan Stepney 1c 391 Scan available - click to view Births Sep 1931 (>99%) Phillips Doris G Jordan Stepney 1c 325 Scan available - click to view Births Sep 1933 (>99%) Phillips Marion R Jordan Stepney 1c 296 Scan available - click to view
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12 Apr 2022 14:58 |
Births Jun 1935 (>99%) Phillips Gwendoline M Jordan Stepney 1c 369 The birth cert will give mother's declared name
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12 Apr 2022 14:53 |
Probably just a case of uncertainty about the forename - and both were recorded
When and where was the death registered?
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Toni
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12 Apr 2022 14:22 |
I am looking for a little help. A friend is struggling with research. Mothers name - Gwendoline M Phillips born 1935. Her mother believed to be Leah phillips nee Jordan. On researching the Death I have found 2 death records, one for a Leah Phillips and one for Lillian phillips - the odd thing is they are registered on the same day, in the same place with the SAME registration number and both ladies are aged 70. This cant be a coincidence. any one else come across this?
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