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Delboy1978
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19 Mar 2022 14:34 |
Hello All
Im having a struggle and if someone can have a fresh look for me please...
Mary Ann Evans, Baptised in St Annes Church Soho, Westminster 1832. Her parents according to this are Robert and Harriet Evans.
I have Mary Ann Evans, Marriage Banns to George Hills in Bethnal Green in 1855. George was a widower and is older than Mary Ann Evans. He had two children prior this marriage, his first wife was Mary Ann Brown in Fordham Cambs: she died in 1848 so between then and 1855 George Hills moved to london with his two children. So I have been on wild goose chase with this one as I didnt realise until late that he had married two ladies with the same first names. Anyway I have worked this out and got the certificates to support this. I am just waiting for the marriage one for her and George to come through,
I am looking for Mary Ann Evans and her parents in 1841, 1851 census before she got married in 1855, the marriage banns stated her address was in Warner Place which is in Bethnal Green,. I have the subsequent census details with her husband, step children and then their own children 1861 onwards.
Mary Ann E is my 2x Great Grandmother.
i am struggling to see anything so any help would be great.
Thank you
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ErikaH
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19 Mar 2022 14:44 |
Robert Evans (Oil & Colour Man) was deceased at the time of the 1855 marriage
Mary Ann was not at 5, Warner Place in 1851
The marriage cert is on Ancestry
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KathleenBell
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19 Mar 2022 14:50 |
Could Mary Ann be known as May? There is this record in the 1841 census:-
Morgan Street, St George, St George in the East, London & Middlesex, England
Robert Evans Male 40 1801 - (on image occ. is Colourman) Harriott Evans Female 35 1806 - John Evans Male 12 1829 Middlesex, England May Evans Female 9 1832 Middlesex, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< George Evans Male 5 1836 Middlesex, England Frederic Evans Male 3 1838 Middlesex, England Edward Evans Male 0 1841 Middlesex, England
Kath. x
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Delboy1978
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19 Mar 2022 14:53 |
Hi Kath Certainly looks like its a possibility! and Harriet is spelt differently too Thanks will have a look Del
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ErikaH
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19 Mar 2022 14:55 |
:-S :-S :-S :-S :-S :-S :-S
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ErikaH
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19 Mar 2022 15:03 |
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EVANS, EDWARD JAMES BLOWERS GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE (IN THE EAST) IN THE COUNTY OF MIDDLE Volume 02 Page 92
Name: Harriet Blowers Gender: Female Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 10 Nov 1823 Marriage Place: St Martin in the Fields, Westminster, Westminster, England Spouse: Robert Evans Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
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ErikaH
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19 Mar 2022 15:06 |
EVANS, ROBERT BLOWERS GRO Reference: 1842 D Quarter in SAINT GEORGE (IN THE EAST) IN THE COUNTY OF MIDDLE Volume 02 Page 87
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Delboy1978
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19 Mar 2022 15:17 |
Thanks Erikah, certainly ones to research further.
Thanks for the help!
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ErikaH
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19 Mar 2022 15:24 |
Neither Robert nor Harriet was born in Middlesex
Occupation isn't 'right', but......................
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Morgan Street, Saint George in the East, St George in the East, London & Middlesex, England Robert Evans Head Married Male 52 1799 Carpenter master Shropshire, England Harriet Evans Wife Married Female 47 1804 - Chelmsford, Essex, England John Evans Son Unmarried Male 20 1831 Picture frame maker Middlesex, England
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Delboy1978
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19 Mar 2022 15:28 |
hmm, its the same address on the 1841 census that Kath posted. 39 Morgan St
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ArgyllGran
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19 Mar 2022 16:34 |
Ancestry's transcription of 1841 gives her name as Mary - must admit the handwriting's not clear:
Mary Evans in the 1841 England Census Name: Mary Evans Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Gender: Female Where Born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St George Middlesex Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Occupation: View image Registration District: St George in the East Sub-registration District: St Mary Neighbors: Piece: 696 Book: 9 Folio: 30 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Robert Evans 40 Harriett Evans 35 John Evans 12 Mary Evans 9 George Evans 5 Fredric Evans 3 Edward Evans 4 Mo
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ArgyllGran
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19 Mar 2022 16:45 |
There are several possibilities for Mary Ann in 1851, allowing for variations in YOB and POB:
Mary Evens in the 1851 England Census Name: Mary Evens Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where Born: London, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Hackney Ecclesiastical parish: Dalston Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Dalston County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration District: Hackney Sub-registration District: Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 77 Piece: 1505 Folio: 551 Page Number: 21
Mary Ann Evans in the 1851 England Census Name: Mary Ann Evans Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where Born: London, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Milton next Gravesend Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Gravesend County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration District: Gravesend Sub-registration District: Gravesend ED, institution, or vessel: 2d Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 23 Piece: 1608 Folio: 284 Page Number: 8
Mary Ann Evans in the 1851 England Census Name: Mary Ann Evans Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where Born: London, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration District: Stepney Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town Lower ED, institution, or vessel: 04 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 31 Piece: 1553 Folio: 68 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age George Christel 37 Martha Christel 36 Mary Ann Evans 16
Mary A Evans in the 1851 England Census Name: Mary A Evans Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where Born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Woodford Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration District: West Ham Sub-registration District: Leyton ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 88 Piece: 1769 Folio: 384 Page Number: 29
Mary Evans in the 1851 England Census Name: Mary Evans Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where Born: London, England Civil Parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration District: Islington Sub-registration District: Islington East ED, institution, or vessel: 25b Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 386 Piece: 1502 Folio: 52 Page Number: 11
Impossible to know which if any - is the right one.
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Delboy1978
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19 Mar 2022 19:42 |
Thanks, yes its impossible to know which one is her.
I have more to go on now which looks good and in the right direction.
thanks for your help :)
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