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19 Mar 2022 09:03 |
Can someone help me find parents of James Henry Burton please?
I have his marriage certificate.
James Henry Burton 20 years old, Carman, Georges Road, Holloway to Mary (actually Mary Ann) 20 years old, Georges Road, Holloway
Married 4th April 1915. St James Church, Holloway, Islington, London.
Grooms father George Burton, Carman.
I have all the information I need on Mary Ann and her family.. She was born in Tottenham, 12 November 1894.
Her father and brother are the witnesses to the marriage.
James could have been born somewhere in London, I just need a push in the right direction.
Will not be back until later today. Thanking you in advance.
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ArgyllGran
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19 Mar 2022 09:17 |
James Burton in the 1911 England Census Name: James Burton Age in 1911: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Tottenham, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Islington Country: England Street Address: 76 Landseer Road, Upper Holloway N Marital status: Single Occupation: Laundry Boy Registration District Number: 10 Sub-registration District: Upper Holloway ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Piece: 814 Household Members: Name Age George Burton 57 - carman, Holloway Martha Burton 57 - Highgate, Middlesex Charles Burton 18 - Tottenham - van boy James Burton 16 - Tottenham - laundry boy
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ErikaH
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19 Mar 2022 09:18 |
There’s a family in Islington in 1911 with father `George, carman, mother Martha
James born 1895 is a laundry bit and there’s a older son, Charles..both born Tottenham
Address 76 Landseer Road, Upper Holloway
Look for James’s birth on the GRO which will give MMN - then look for marriage of parents
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ArgyllGran
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19 Mar 2022 09:22 |
BURTON, CHARLES HENRY mmn SIMMONS GRO Reference: 1892 D Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 318
BURTON, JAMES HENRY mmn SIMMONS GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 318
George Burton in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936 Name: George Burton Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1874 Marriage Place: St Mary, Islington, Islington, England Father: James Burton Spouse: Martha Simmons [ father: William Simmons ] Register Type: Parish Register
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Kucinta
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19 Mar 2022 09:28 |
In the 1939 register James H and Mary A are living at 17, Henningham Rd, Tottenham.
James'birthdate is recorded as 13th Aug 1894, in case it identifies a baptism or birth record.
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ArgyllGran
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19 Mar 2022 09:30 |
James called Harry in 1901:
Geo Burton in the 1901 England Census Name: Geo Burton Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Martha Burton Birth Place: Holloway, London, England Civil Parish: Tottenham Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: 2 James Terrace Registration District: Edmonton Sub-registration District: Tottenham ED, institution, or vessel: 52 Neighbors: Piece: 1254 Folio: 15 Page Number: 22 Household Schedule Number: 129 Household Members: Name Age Geo Burton 47 - carman, road contractor, Holloway Martha Burton 47 - Stoke Newington Geo Burton 22 - Kings Cross Martha Burton 19 - Holloway William Burton 16 - Holloway Charley Burton 8 - Tottenham Harry Burton 5 - Tottenham
BURTON, WILLIAM ROBERT mmn SIMMONS GRO Reference: 1885 J Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 290
BURTON, MARTHA ANN mmn SIMMONS GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 220
Can't see the birth of the son George.
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ArgyllGran
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19 Mar 2022 10:04 |
George Barton in the 1881 England Census Name: George Barton Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Martha H. Barton Gender: Male Where Born: Holloway Civil Parish: Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 13 Edward Square Marital status: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Carman Registration District: Islington Sub registration district: Islington West ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: Piece: 231 Folio: 17 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age George Barton 27 Martha H. Barton 28 - Hammersmith George W. Barton 2 - Balls Pond Ann Price 29 - lodger, Bristol
George Burton in the 1891 England Census Name: George Burton Gender: Male Age: 40 Relationship: Head Birth Year: 1851 Spouse: Martha Burton Child: George Burton William Burton Thomas Burton Martha Burton Birth Place: Hackney, London, England Civil parish: Tottenham Ecclesiastical parish: St John Residence Place: Tottenham, Middlesex, England Registration district: Edmonton Sub registration district: Tottenham ED, Institution or Vessel: 20a Neighbors: Piece: 1073 Folio: 78 Household Members Age Relationship George Burton 40 Head - carman Martha Burton 42 Wife - Stepney George Burton 13 Son - Holloway William Burton 10 Son - Holloway Thomas Burton 6 Son - Holloway Martha Burton 13 Daughter - Tottenham
Address: 27 Osmond (Ormond ?) Road
I don't see Thomas's birth.
There's this one - but wrong MMN:
BARTON, THOMAS mmn RAMPLING GRO Reference: 1885 J Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 422
EDIT: No, that's not him - that one's with his parents James and Harriet in Southwark in 1891 (and a Rampling uncle).
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MotownGal
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19 Mar 2022 11:53 |
Thank you so very much ArgyllGran, Erika and Kucinta.
I thought Jimmy (as he was always known) was born in Tottenham. They moved back there as it states in the 1939 Register (which I did not know) but lived there until Mary died.
The trouble with having a common surname is exactly that!
I appreciate all your endeavours, and now have a clearer idea of where I should be looking. Thank you.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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19 Mar 2022 12:03 |
Strong possibility
Deaths Dec 1956 Burton James H 62 Edmonton 5e 255
Reg district covers Tottenham
And wife
Name: Mary Ann Burton Death Age: 87 Birth Date: 12 Nov 1894 Registration Date: Jan 1982 [Feb 1982] [Mar 1982] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District: Redbridge Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 14 Page: 1544
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Kucinta
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19 Mar 2022 15:01 |
Baptism had been indexed as Jane Henry Burton.
Baptised 11th Nov 1894, birthdate in margin 13th Aug 1894 at St Anns, Tottenham, Haringey.
Father George Burton a carman, mother Martha Harriett Burton.
So it all ties together nicely.
Will message baptism image as I couldn't c & p transcript on tablet
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ArgyllGran
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19 Mar 2022 16:20 |
His brother Charles's baptism, just for good measure:
Charles Henry Burton in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1920 Name: Charles Henry Burton Gender: Male Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 11 Nov 1894 Baptism Place: St Ann, Tottenham, Haringey, England Father: George Burton Mother: Marth Harriett Burton Register Type: Parish Register
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Maddie
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19 Mar 2022 16:51 |
Name: Martha Simmons Gender: Female Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 14 Dec 1854 Baptism Place: St Mary, Islington, Islington, England Father: William Simmons Mother: Sarah Simmons Register Type: Parish Register
BURTON, GEORGE BURTON GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in THE ISLINGTON DISTRICT Volume 01B Page 234
Name: George Burton Gender: Male Document Year: 1914 Residence Place: Holloway N Relationship to Soldier: Father Form Title: Military History Sheet Number of Images: 8 Other Records: Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier Charles Henry Burton Self (Head) George Burton Father Martha Harriet Burton Mother
Name: George Burton Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: 1856 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Burton Mother's Name: Phoebie Burton Gender: Male Where Born: Islington, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Islington St Mary County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration District: Islington Sub-registration District: Islington East ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 180 Piece: 139 Folio: 98 Page Number: 40 Household Members: Name Age James Burton 43 Phoebie Burton 43 William Burton 13 Hannah Burton 11 Ellen Burton 7 George Burton 5 David Burton 4 Emma Burton 10/12
Name: Pheebe Susannah Burton Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 14 Aug 1842 Marriage Place: St Mary, Finchley, Barnet, England Father: James Burton Spouse: James Burton Register Type: Parish Register
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MotownGal
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19 Mar 2022 17:02 |
Just came back on again.
Thank you Shirley, Kacinta, ArgyllGran and Maddie.
Wow, I am doing great guns!
I appreciate all you have found out for me. More than I could have hoped for.
Thanks again!
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MotownGal
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20 Mar 2022 07:57 |
Once again, appreciate all the help given.
Best Wishes.
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