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Dianna

Dianna Report 14 Feb 2022 19:29

I seem to be having difficulty in finding info on the following can anyone help ?.
On the 1871 cencus it shows Thomas Hedges and wife together with Edward Hedges age11 nephew and Mary Lewis age 11 niece I would like to find details of their parents if possible, any help will be appreciated. Thanks.

lostmeboardname

lostmeboardname Report 14 Feb 2022 19:35

what part of the country please

Dianna

Dianna Report 14 Feb 2022 19:42

Around Caerphilly, Whitchurch, Cardiff area of East Glamorgan.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2022 20:28

Please C&P the census transcription so we have all relevant info

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2022 20:37

The surname on the census is EDGES

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2022 20:41

Look for Edward’s birth on the GRO site for MMN, then look for marriage of parents
Look at 1861 census for all of them

Dianna

Dianna Report 14 Feb 2022 20:51

Yes the name is missing the H.

Dianna

Dianna Report 14 Feb 2022 21:03

This may sound silly to you, but l am not sure what you mean check for births on the GRO site for MMN .I apologise for not quite understanding.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2022 21:07

No probs

The GRO site is free

Find what is probably Edward’s birth in 1959 in Cardiff district and if his parents were married, the MMN will be recorded

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Feb 2022 21:09

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

You have to register, but as ErikaH says, it's free to search for births and deaths.


MMN means mother's maiden name.


However, Edward's birth was illegitimate ( if the mother had been married, her maiden name would be where the dash is), therefore his mother's name was also Hedges:

HEDGES, EDWARD -
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 193

His mother is presumably a sister of Thomas.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Feb 2022 21:20

Ancestry's transcription of the 1871 census
shows "Mary" as Emma, which seems correct when I look at the image.

Emma Lewis
in the 1871 Wales Census
Name: Emma Lewis
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Relation
Gender: gender
Where born: city, Glamorganshire, Wales
Civil parish: city
Town: township
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration district: Registration district
Sub-registration district: Sub-registration district
ED, institution, or vessel: ED, institution, or vessel
Household schedule number: Household schedule number
Piece: Piece
Folio: Folio
Page number: Page number
Household Members Age Relationship
Thomas Edges 57 Head
Mary Edges 62 Wife
Edward Edges 11 Nephew
Emma Lewis 11 Niece


Her birth:

LEWIS, EMMA mmn HEDGES
GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 204

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2022 21:28

Lewis Lewis possibly married Mary Hedges in Newport Mon in 1853

Look at 1861 census for Emma

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Feb 2022 21:32

Parents???

Marriages Dec 1853 (>99%)
Hedges Mary Newport M 11a 342
Lewis Lewis Newport M. 11a 342

Emma Lewis
in the 1861 Wales Census
Name: Emma Lewis
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Lewis Lewis
Mother's Name: Mary Lewis
Gender: Female
Where Born: Whitchurch, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Whitchurch
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration District: Cardiff
Sub-registration District: Caerphilly
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household Schedule Number: 23
Neighbors:
Piece: 4030
Folio: 54
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Lewis Lewis 29
Mary Lewis 27
Lydia Lewis 5
Mary Lewis 3
Emma Lewis 1


That child is also with her parents in 1881 and 1891, but not in 1871, which would fit.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Feb 2022 13:43

From a tree on Ancestry

EDWARD HEDGES
Spouse Alice Hedges
Mother Ann Hedges***************
Children Elizabeth
Birth 1860 Glamorgan, Wales
Death Oct 1931 Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales
Residence 1901 Llantrisant, Anglesey, Wales


??1841

Name: Ann Hedges
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Gender: Female
Where Born: Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Eglwys Ilan
Hundred: Caerphilly
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration District: Cardiff
Sub-registration District: Caerphilly
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1414
Book: 6
Folio: 32
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hedges 25
Mary Hedges 30
Mary Hedges 7
Amy Hedges 5
Ann Hedges 3
John Hedges 1

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Feb 2022 14:12

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Rhubina Road, Eglwysilan, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

Thomas Edges Head Married Male 49 1812 Wood cutter St Mellons, Monmouthshire, Wales
Mary Edges Wife Married Female 50 1811 - Glamorgan, Wales
Margaret Edges Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1847 - Glamorgan, Wales
John Edges Grandson - Male 17 1844 Wood cutter Roath, Glamorgan, Wales
Janet Edges Daughter - Female 12 1849 Scholar Glamorgan, Wales
Edward Edges Grandson - Male 1 1860 - Glamorgan, Wales

It would seem that describing Edward as 'Nephew' in 1871 was not accurate