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Eliza Hannah Meads

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Terence

Terence Report 15 Jan 2022 05:00

Cannot find the death of Eliza Hannah Meads (b1859, Blackfriars, London) (Nee Bowler).
Eliza was the second wife of George Meads (b1838), they married 1878, Henley, Oxfordshire.
They are both in the 1911 census, but George died in1913.

Now we have the 1921census, Eliza is nowhere to be seen. She cannot be traced through electoral roles, as all women did not get the vote until 1928.
I thought I had her death in1927, but there are quotes of her death at 110 years!!!!
Can anyone help with perhaps a later marriage and death??

Terence. South Australia.


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jan 2022 08:09

Son Frank died in ww1 and George and Eliza are recorded as his parents

Frank Meads
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Birth Date: abt 1897
Death Date: 16 Aug 1915
Cemetery: Hebuterne Communal Cemetery; Hebuterne Military Cemetery
Burial Country: France
Regiment: Princess Charlotte of Wales's (Royal Berkshire) Regiment
Regimental Number: 3060
Region or Memorial: France
Father: George Meads
Mother: Eliza Meads
Other Records: Search for 'Frank Meads' in other WWI collections

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jan 2022 09:53

Use freebmd to look for a re-marriage
Where was she living in 1911?

EDITED……Berkshire

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jan 2022 09:56

For our reference:


Eliza Meads
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Eliza Meads
Age in 1911: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Blackfriars, London, England
Civil Parish: Maidenhead
Country: England
Street Address: Elsdon, Penyston Road, Maidenhead
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 33
Estimated Marriage Year: 1878
Registration District Number: 123
Sub-registration District: Maidenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 6652
Household Members:
Name Age
George Meads 43 [ 73 on image - mistranscribed ]
Eliza Meads 52
Kitty Meads 22
Albert Meads 19
Frank Meads 14
Reginald Meads 9
Percy Clifton Hunt 21

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jan 2022 10:01

In 1915, per Frank's death notice, they were at 9 Kentish Town Road, London

Or at least Eliza was, as George had died, as Terence mentions:

Deaths Mar 1913 (>99%)
Meads George 75 Maidenhead 2c 513


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jan 2022 11:42

She was alive in 1916, as she was one of the recipient's of Frank's War Gratuity - recorded as Elizabeth

DoB 16th September 1859 - as per baptism record

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jan 2022 11:56

In 1919 she gets £3 from franks gratuity but it’s down as mrs Elizabeth meads

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jan 2022 14:16

Elizabeth Meads
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Elizabeth Meads
Electoral Date: 1922
Street Address: 9 Kknti8h( Town Road [ 9 Kentish Town Road ]
Ward or Division/Constituency: St Pancras
County or Borough: Camden, England


Still there in 1923:

Elizabeth Meads
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Elizabeth Meads
Electoral Date: 1923
Street Address: 9 Bewley Cliff Wharf [Kentish Town Road on image ]
Ward or Division/Constituency: St Pancras
County or Borough: Camden, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jan 2022 14:25

For elimination only -

She's NOT this woman:

Marriages Mar 1924 (>99%)
Meads Eliza Welsh Paddington 1a 111
Welsh David J Meads Paddington 1a 111

That Eliza was born 25 Sep 1900, per 1939 Register.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jan 2022 14:37

There's an Elizabeth Meads living alone at 28 Pentlow Street, Putney, in 1930 and 1931 - but of course I've no idea if this could be her or not.

Also various one or two Elizabeth Meads living alone in later years in various parts of London.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 15 Jan 2022 14:41

She is still at 9 Kentish Town Rd on 12 May 1924 when she is stated as mother age 65 on Franks pension record in FOLD3. That is the last recorded payment on the record,

though there is a purple rubber stamp saying OK 19 - 5 26

There is another pension record stating 'DEAD' and dated 26-8-27
address of 3 St Marks Crescent N.W.1

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 15 Jan 2022 14:45

MEADS, ELIZA ANNA 67
GRO Reference: 1927 S Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 469

Anna = Hannah??

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jan 2022 14:50

Her baptism records her second forename as ANNA

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jan 2022 14:56

????

MEADS, ELIZA ANNA 67
GRO Reference: 1927 S Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 469

Maybe the informant didn't know her exact age ??

Terence

Terence Report 16 Jan 2022 23:30

Thank you very much Shirley, ErikaH, AgyllGran and lancashireAnn.
I had some 'un-confirmed' information, such as her death and son Frank's death in 1915, mentioning his parents.
As we occasionally find, names are phonetically changed. Dropping the "H" is common!

Again, thank you all very much. You go a long way to ease our frustrations.

Terrence.



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2022 13:51

Name: Eliza Anna Bowler
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 21 Sep 1859
Baptism Date: 5 Oct 1864
Baptism Place: St Sepulchre,London,London,England
Father: Edwin Bowler
Mother: Emma

Eliza's four siblings were baptised at the same time
Matilda
Edwin William
Mary Jane
Alice Emma

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2022 15:14

DoB 25th September 1859 as previously stated, so the 1927 death is entirely feasible.

Getting a copy of the cert would prove whether or not it was for the right woman

Terence

Terence Report 18 Jan 2022 02:03

Thank you EriaH,for the latest on Eliiza.

Terence.