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The John Merriman from the 1851 census - can't be the right person, if the "judge" story is true:

John Merriman
in the 1901 England Census
Name: John Merriman
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Alberta M Merriman
Birth Place: Belgrave, Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Leicester formerly St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration District: Leicester
Sub-registration District: North East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors:
Piece: 2996
Folio: 72
Page Number: 20
Household Schedule Number: 130
Household Members:
Name Age
John Merriman 59 - beerhouse keeper
Alberta M Merriman 48
Alice M Merriman 19
Ethel M Merriman 17


EDIT:

Anyway, now I see that Elaine says Thomas was born 1856, so this is the wrong family.

The 1861 family in 1851:

William Maraman
in the 1851 England Census
Name: William Maraman
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Maraman
Mother's Name: Ann Maraman
Gender: Male
Where Born: Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Leicester All Saints
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: Leicester
Sub-registration District: West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 2f
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 22
Piece: 2090
Folio: 133
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Maraman 30
Ann Maraman 30
John Maraman 10 <<<< ????
Samuel Maraman 3
William Maraman 1
Austin Mill 35

Marriages Sep 1885 (>99%)
Hunt Mary Leicester 7a 276
MERRIMAN Thomas Leicester 7a 276

Marriage date 09 Aug 1885
Address 28 Dryden St - father Thomas Merriman

1901

Name: Thomas Merriman
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Mary Merriman
Birth Place: Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Leicester formerly St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: Leicester Christchurch
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Registration District: Leicester
Sub-registration District: North West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2989
Folio: 76
Page Number: 29
Household Schedule Number: 202
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Merriman 44
Mary Merriman 44
Maggie Merriman 24..dau, b. Stockport


HUNT, MAGGY -
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 26
Born well before the mother married

No help with John - but:

Re Thomas in the 1861 census posted above -


Thomas Merriman
in the UK, Prison Commission Records, 1770-1951
Name: Thomas Merriman
Criminal Admission Age: 33
Record Type: Register
Birth Date: abt 1822
Occupation: Gardener
Criminal Charge: Stealing
Sentence: 1 month
Criminal Admission Date: 28 Apr 1855
Criminal Admission Place: England
Jail: Leicester Gaol
Source Description: Leicester Gaol: Calendar of Trials At Assizes and Quarter Sessions For the Borough of Leicester

Sentenced to 1 month hard labour in the Borough House of Correction, Leicester.
Crime: stealing 2lbs potatoes, the property of William Marlow, on 28 april 1855

Can’t find marriages for them. I know their parents were Thomas Merriman 1821 - 1862 and Hannah Palmer 1821 - 1886. Looks like we are not going to get any further.
Thank you so much for trying.

Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)

Merriman William Leicester 7a 465
Morgan Martha Leicester 7a 465

Date of marriage 24/12/1871

MERRIMAN, ANNIE (MMN) MORGAN
GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 161

For a benchmark - is this 100% your family in 1861?

98, Sanvey Gate, All Saints, Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Thomas Merriman Head Married Male 39 1822 Gardener Stanford, Leicestershire, England
Hannah Merriman Wife Married Female 39 1822 - Rothley, Leicestershire, England
William Merriman Son Unmarried Male 12 1849 Scholar Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Elizabeth Merriman Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Jane Merriman Daughter - Female 6 1855 Scholar Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Thomas Merriman Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Did either of the brothers marry? Are they shown on censuses with children?

Both the brothers named were dead by 1901

Could he have been Francis John, there is one on Ancestry born 1915 died 1990 Leicestershire.

Several trees on Ancestry show his parenst as Joseph Merriman & Fanny

Edit. Probably not that one - 1939 occupation is wrong.

She recalls Uncle John (who was in the army in India) was the brother of John Francis’ father (either William or Thomas). I realise this is only hearsay but I decided to research but haven’t been able to verify anything other than find John and his brothers but no John Francis.

How reliable is your informant? What is the basis for the statement that JFM was a judge?

Think early 1900s but not sure.

You should be searching for FrancIs - male version

WHEN is this man supposed to have been a Judge, please?

How did you work back to the brothers in Leicester?

Found Thomas (1856 - 1901) and william (1850-1876) in Leicester but can’t link John Frances Merriman to them. Also tried to find lists of Judges names but nothing.

There’s a death in 1985 on freebmd……check it out for possible relevance

The father of that man was Ernest W, mother Ivy

What research have you done? No point in our duplicating………

Can anyone help find this man please. My elderly relative says he was a Judge dealing with divorce cases, probably 1900s but I can’t find any records of him. His Uncle John was in India in the army and had two brothers William and Thomas, one of whom she thinks was John Francis’ father. Thank you.