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ErikaH
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7 Jan 2022 14:14 |
MERRIMAN, FRANK BOYD BOYD GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in ALTRINCHAM Volume 08A Page 210
Marriages Sep 1879 (>99%) BOYD Mary Anne Hampstead 1a 1203 Merriman Frank Hampstead 1a 1203
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Kucinta
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7 Jan 2022 12:42 |
Probably a complete red herring, but there is the first Baron Merriman, Frank Boyd Merriman, who at one point was President of the Probate, DIVORCE and Admiralty division of the High Court.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyd_Merriman,_1st_Baron_Merriman
Frank is a diminutive of Francis, though he certainly married as Frank. I know the name is not correct, as given to you, and highly doubt there is any connection to your family, but wondered if it was one of those instances where family legend claims a connection to a public figure that turns out to be completely unfounded?
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Elaine
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7 Jan 2022 12:10 |
ErikaH Thanks for looking on the 1921 census. Keep safe
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Elaine
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7 Jan 2022 12:10 |
ErikaH Thanks for looking on the 1921 census. Keep safe
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ErikaH
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6 Jan 2022 14:48 |
There is no record of a John Francis Merriman on the 1921 census
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ArgyllGran
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3 Jan 2022 14:44 |
Erika posted 1891 for John and Kate, and I posted 1901 for John with different wife.
Second marriage:
. Alberta Maderline Hickin in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: Alberta Maderline Hickin Registration Year: 1899 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Leicester Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a Page: 543 Records on Page: Name Alberta Maderline Hickin John Merriman
Looks like it was Alberta Madeline's third (?) marriage:
Alberta Madeline Brewer in the England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973 Name: Alberta Madeline Brewer [Alberta Madeline Lyes] Gender: Female Marital Status: Widowed Marriage Date: 29 Apr 1884 Marriage Place: St. Martin In The Fields, Westminster, Middlesex, England Father: John Lyes Spouse: George Hickin FHL Film Number: 1701793 Reference ID: v 100 p 62
Madeline Alberta Lyes in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936 Name: Madeline Alberta Lyes Gender: Female Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 16 May 1870 Marriage Place: St Pancras Old St Pancras, Camden, England Spouse: Thomas William Brewer Register Type: Parish Register
However - still no sign of John Francis.
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ErikaH
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3 Jan 2022 14:39 |
Name: John Merriman Age: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Alberta M Merriman Birth Place: Belgrave, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Leicester formerly St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Registration District: Leicester Sub-registration District: North East Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2996 Folio: 72 Page Number: 20 Household Schedule Number: 130 Household Members: Name Age John Merriman 59 Alberta M Merriman 48 Alice M Merriman 19 Ethel M Merriman 17
Name: Alberta Maderline Hickin Registration Year: 1899 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Leicester Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a Page: 543 Records on Page: Name Alberta Maderline Hickin John Merriman
Name: Alberta Madeline Brewer [Alberta Madeline Lyes] Gender: Female Marital Status: Widowed Marriage Date: 29 Apr 1884 Marriage Place: St. Martin In The Fields, Westminster, Middlesex, England Father: John Lyes Spouse: George Hickin
Name: Madeline Alberta Lyes Gender: Female Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 16 May 1870 Marriage Place: St Pancras Old St Pancras, Camden, England Spouse: Thomas William Brewer........Widower
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ArgyllGran
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3 Jan 2022 14:35 |
Probate to go with that 1906 death ??
John Merriman in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995 Name: John Merriman Death Date: 13 Aug 1906 Death Place: Hertfordshire, England Probate Date: 26 Sep 1906 Probate Registry: London, England
MERRIMAN, John, of the "Rose and Crown", Mill End, Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, died 13 August 1906 at Guy's Hospital, Surrey. Administration (with Will) London 26 September 1906 to Maderline Merriman, widow. Effects £1339 5s 10d.
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ErikaH
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3 Jan 2022 14:34 |
Name: Frederick Samuel Merriman Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place: Leicester, Leicestershire, United Kingdom Death Date: Mar 1895 Inferred Death Place: Leicestershire, United Kingdom Volume: 7a Page: 130
Name: William Henry Merriman Event: Baptism Birth Date: 19 Dec 1873 Baptism Date: 23 Jan 1874 Baptism Place: Aden Father: John Merriman Mother: Catherine Butler
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ErikaH
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3 Jan 2022 14:32 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Fallow Deer, Marston Street, Leicester, Leicestershire, England
John Merriman Head Married Male 49 1842 Publican Belgrave, Leicestershire, England Kate Merriman Wife Married Female 37 1854 - Limerick, Ireland William H Merriman Son Single Male 17 1874 Clerk boot - Arabia Frederick S Merriman Son Single Male 14 1877 Clerk boot India Edith K Merriman Daughter Single Female 13 1878 Scholar India Alice M Merriman Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar India Ethel M Merriman Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar India
Name: Kate Merriman Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place: Leicester, Leicestershire, United Kingdom Death Date: Mar 1895 Volume: 7a Page: 162
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ErikaH
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3 Jan 2022 14:27 |
Name: John Merriman Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Death Registration Place: Southwark, London, United Kingdom Death Date: Sep 1906
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ErikaH
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3 Jan 2022 14:22 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Near Clough Side Farm, Werneth, Stockport, Cheshire, England
John Bott Head Married Male 64 1817 Farmer of 38 acres Leicestershire, England Mary Bott Wife Married Female 56 1825 Farmers wife Leicestershire, England Maggie Hunt Niece Single Female 4 1877 - Werneth, Cheshire, England
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 14, New Lane, Leicester St Margaret, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Hannah Merrieman Head Widow Female 60 1821 House keeper Rothley, Leicestershire, England Thomas Merrieman Son Single Male 24 1857 General lab Leicester, Leicestershire, England Sarah Merrieman Daughter Single Female 19 1862 Frame work knitter Leicester, Leicestershire, England Walter Papworth Boarder Single Male 14 1867 Shoe finisher Waresley, Middlesex, England
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ArgyllGran
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3 Jan 2022 14:18 |
Thomas Merriman in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Thomas Merriman Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Death Registration Place: Barrow Upon Soar, Leicestershire, United Kingdom Death Date: Sep 1901 Inferred Death Place: Leicestershire, United Kingdom Volume: 7a Page: 91
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Elaine
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3 Jan 2022 14:18 |
So confusing, all these Merrimans. Beginning to think maybe my relative is wrong about the Judge story but she was right about Uncle John in the army in India. He and his wife Kate had 5 children whilst there, he passed away In 1906 in Surrey.
Thank you all for your help, think I need a cup of tea now.
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ErikaH
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3 Jan 2022 14:13 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Harrington Street, Belgrave, Barrow upon Soar, Leicestershire, England
Thomas Merriman Head Married Male 34 1857 Waggoner Leicester Mary Merriman Wife Married Female 36 1855 - Stoney Stanton, Leicestershire, England Maggie Merriman Daughter - Female 14 1877 Shoe hand Cheshire, England
Name: Mary Merriman Death Age: 67 Birth Date: abt 1856 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep 1923 Registration District: Leicester Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a Page: 247
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ArgyllGran
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3 Jan 2022 14:12 |
The Thomas who was in prison is not the Thomas who married Mary Hunt .
He was Thomas 1856's father (EDIT: as ErikaH also says)
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ErikaH
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3 Jan 2022 14:10 |
The criminal was the father.......................
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Elaine
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3 Jan 2022 14:08 |
Oh dear - I did see Thomas had been to prison - thanks for your info.
Just going to look at marriage for Thomas to Mary Hunt and 1901 census thanks.
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ErikaH
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3 Jan 2022 14:07 |
Neither of the brothers had any legitimate sons.
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ErikaH
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3 Jan 2022 14:06 |
That's the alleged uncle, I think
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