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20 Dec 2021 00:30 |
Another "Brick Wall" I'm afraid! The Charles Mead 1859-1937 (originally from Medmenham/Marlow, Buckinghamshire), memorial in west Drayton, Middlesex mentions a "Sarah Hannah Mead", passed away January 5th 1923, aged 55 years. Others mentioned are Emily Mead (his first wife) died September 3rd 1904, aged 47years and their daughter Melinda Annie, died May 18th 1971. Unmarried it seems!
Firstly, cannot find Charles and Emily on the 1901 census, but their daughter Melinda is shown "In service" in the 1901 and 1911 census with, respectively, the Beale and Moses families.
The only Sarah Hannah (Milling), from Leeds, Yorkshire), I can find, is a marriage to a Charles Mead in Guildford, Surrey, in OND 1907. She died in 1923. Cannot seem to find them in the 1911 census!
Later, Charles is with daughter Melinda in the 1929 and 1935 electoral roles in Yewsley/West Drayton, an area of Middlesex. (After father Charles passed away, Melinda is with cousin Mabel1896 in the 1939 register still in Yewsley).
My question is....What happened with Charles shortly after Emily died in 1904?
Can anyone add to all this please?
Terence Meads. South Australia.
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20 Dec 2021 03:47 |
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Melinda A Meads Census • England and Wales Census, 1891 Event Type Census Event Place Note Riching Park Name Melinda A Meads Sex Female Age 6 Event Date 1891 Event Place Iver, Buckinghamshire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original) Iver, Buckinghamshire, England Enumeration District 7 Registration District Eton Birth Year (Estimated) 1885 Birthplace Buckinghamshire, England Marital Status Single Occupation Scholar Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Page Number 22 Piece/Folio 1133/ 98 Registration Number RG12 Melinda A Meads's Parents and Siblings Chas Meads Father Event Type Census Event Place Note Riching Park Name Chas Meads Sex Male Age 33 Event Date 1891 Event Place Iver, Buckinghamshire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original) Iver, Buckinghamshire, England Enumeration District 7 Registration District Eton Birth Year (Estimated) 1858 Birthplace Buckinghamshire, England Marital Status Married Occupation Farm Servant Relationship to Head of Household Head Page Number 22 Piece/Folio 1133/ 98 Registration Number RG12 Emily Meads Mother Other People on This Record Thos Meads Event Type Census Event Place Note Riching Park Name Thos Meads Sex Male Age 14 Event Date 1891 Event Place Iver, Buckinghamshire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original) Iver, Buckinghamshire, England Enumeration District 7 Registration District Eton Birth Year (Estimated) 1877 Birthplace Middlesex, England Marital Status Single Occupation Farm Servant Relationship to Head of Household Nephew Page Number 22 Piece/Folio 1133/ 98 Registration Number RG12
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20 Dec 2021 04:18 |
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Births Sep 1884 (>99%) Meads Milinda Annie Eton 3a 598
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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20 Dec 2021 07:56 |
Charles Henry Meads in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 ViewLondon, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Charles Henry Meads Electoral Date: 1909 Street Address: 28, King's-road, Teddington Ward or Division/Constituency: Uxbridge County or Borough: Hounslow, England
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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20 Dec 2021 08:07 |
Are you sure you have the right death for Emily
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Deaths Sep 1904 MEAD Emily 48 Kensington 1a 101
Charles Meads Gender: Male Marriage Age: 24 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1858 Marriage Date: 27 May 1882 Marriage Place: St Margaret, Uxbridge, Hillingdon, England Father: Joseph Meads Spouse: Emily Gray age 26 born c 1856 Register Type: Parish Register
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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20 Dec 2021 08:16 |
Have you got certificates to check it’s the right family each time
Both marriage certs should give ages and fathers name and occupation
Sarah Hannah was Millman not milling
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20 Dec 2021 08:21 |
Sarah H Millman Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Hampstead Search Photos: Search for 'Hampstead' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration District: Hampstead Sub-registration District: Hampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 123 Folio: 46 Page Number: 37 Household Schedule Number: 178 Household Members: Name Age David J Dunlop 48 Laura F Dunlop 39 James W Dunlop 11 Walter Dunlop 18 Sybil Dunlop 19 David C Dunlop 3 Evelyn A Dunlop 12 Emma Norris 19 Florence M Smart 23 Sarah H Millman 33 Mary Austin 31 Bessie Smith 18
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20 Dec 2021 08:31 |
MEADS, MILINDA ANNIE mmn GRAY GRO Reference: 1884 S Quarter in ETON BUCKS Volume 03A Page 598
Marriages Jun 1882 (>99%) GRAY Emily Uxbridge 3a 56 MEADS Charles Uxbridge 3a 56
Repeating 1891 in more readable form:
Emily Meads in the 1891 England Census Name: Emily Meads Gender: Female Age: 34 Relationship: Wife Birth Year: 1857 Spouse: Chas Meads Child: Melinda H Meads Birth Place: Uxbridge, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Iver Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Residence Place: Iver, Iver, Buckinghamshire, England Registration district: Eton Sub registration district: Iver ED, Institution or Vessel: 7 Neighbors: Piece: 1133 Folio: 98 Household Members Age Relationship Chas Meads 33 Head - Iver, Bucks Emily Meads 34 Wife - Uxbridge Melinda H Meads 6 Daughter Thos Meads 14 Nephew
?? GRAY, EMILY mmn TOWNSEND GRO Reference: 1856 D Quarter in UXBRIDGE UNION Volume 03A Page 25
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20 Dec 2021 08:43 |
There was another sister
MEADS, MABEL GRAY GRO Reference: 1896 J Quarter in UXBRIDGE Volume 03A Page 27
1939 register
Name: Mabel Mead [Mabel Meads] Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Birth Date: 16 Mar 1896 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 1 Wire Lane Residence Place: Yiewsley and West Drayton, Middlesex, England Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties Line Number: 30 Schedule Number: 157 Sub Schedule Number: 2 Enumeration District: BZAB Borough: Yiewsley and West Drayton Registration district: 127/1 Household Members Age Melinda A Mead 55 Mabel Mead 43 S
Edit she however is the same family as Lizzie Melinda meads
Mabel Meads Age in 1911: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Yiewsley, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Yiewsley Search Photos: Search for 'Yiewsley' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Country: England Street Address: 2 Albert Villas, Albert Road, Yiewsley, Middx Marital status: Single Registration District Number: 127 Sub-registration District: Hillingdon ED, institution, or vessel: 07 Piece: 6764 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Meads 58 Charlotte Meads 56 William Meads 34 John Meads 30 Bert Meads 23 Frank Meads 20 Mabel Meads 15 Maud Meads 13
So families are related as Joseph is a brother of Charles
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20 Dec 2021 08:44 |
And possibly
MEADS, LIZZIE MELINDA GRAY GRO Reference: 1895 M Quarter in UXBRIDGE Volume 03A Page 30
Edit different family is a sibling of Mabel meads and cousin of Melinda
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20 Dec 2021 08:46 |
Living with Charles
Melinda Annie Mead Electoral Date: 1933 Ward or Division/Constituency: Uxbridge County or Borough: Hillingdon, England Address 1 wise way
Charles Mead Death Date: 17 Oct 1937 Death Place: Middlesex, England Probate Date: 29 Mar 1938 Probate Registry: London, England
Of 1 Wise Lane died Hillingdon Hospital
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ArgyllGran
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20 Dec 2021 09:07 |
For our reference:
Sarah Hannah Mead in the London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-2003 Name: Sarah Hannah Mead Death Age: 55 Record Type: Burial Birth Date: abt 1868 Death Date: Abt 1923 Burial Date: 11 Jan 1923 Burial Place: St Martin, West Drayton, Hillingdon, England Register Type: Parish Register
Address: The Lodge, Dalgarvin (?) Gardens, Kensington
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ArgyllGran
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20 Dec 2021 09:11 |
Living with Charles:
Sarah Hannah Mead in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Sarah Hannah Mead Electoral Date: 1920 Street Address: West London Cricket [ Dalgarno Gardens ] Ward or Division/Constituency: Kensington County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea, England
Also there in 1921, 1919 and 1918.
Charles there on his own in 1924, after Sarah's death.
Charles was at West London Cricket Ground - "caretaker's residence" - from at least 1902 onwards. Only the main householders are listed in the earlier years (at least 1902-1911 re Charles) so no mention of Sarah (or Emily). 1902-11 the cricket ground's address is given as Highlever Road (Upper).
Perhaps the enumerator by-passed the cricket ground in 1901 and 1911, not realising anyone lived there??
Nowadays the Sutton estate (Sutton Way) is where the cricket ground used to be - opposite the junction of Dalgarno Gardens and Highlever Road.
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Terence
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21 Dec 2021 04:02 |
Thank you to all of you for the above information. No wonder we cannot find Charles registered at the cricket ground in 1901 and 1911 census. Perhaps the 1921 census will at least show Charles and Sarah there. If their marriage is valid, why Guildford, when other relations are in the Yewsley/Drayton area! Perhaps Charles got to know her there when she was "In service" in the area!
Again, thank you all. Shirley.....you seem to have "got the hang of it" a lot more now!
Terence.
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22 Dec 2021 12:27 |
do you have this
Name: Sarah Hannah Mead Death Date: 5 Jan 1923 Death Place: Middlesex, England Probate Date: 12 Feb 1923 Probate Registry: London, England
of the west lodge cricket ground north kenington wife of charles mead died 5th jan 1923 admin to charles mead groundsman effects £342 18s 5d
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22 Dec 2021 22:36 |
Thanks Maddie, I did not have this.
Terence.
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