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malyon
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1 Dec 2021 21:57 |
please could someone lookup 1939 reg for john hull wife esther nee edwards st pancras thank you
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rootgatherer
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1 Dec 2021 22:23 |
Do you have a year of birth please?
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ErikaH
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1 Dec 2021 22:24 |
Birth years?
Married 1915………..
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ErikaH
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1 Dec 2021 22:26 |
Death in 1928 for Esther Hull 38 in St Pancras
Have you done any research?
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ArgyllGran
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1 Dec 2021 22:51 |
Five possible children born before 1939 in St Pancras.
Daughter Violet Frances (1926) died in 1930 in Islington.
Three sons, born 1919, 1920, 1923 - can't see any of them convincingly in 1939, though there are a couple of possibilities for the 1923 son.
The daughter Alice Esther, born in 1916, married in St Pancras in 1945.
Her future husband, Alan E C Percy, 27/10/1913, was in St Pancras in 1939.
Here's Alice , with wrong YOB - though no help with finding her father in 1939:
Alice Esther Hull in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Alice Esther Hull [Alice Esther Percy] Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Birth Date: 26 Jun 1918 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 17 Marlin Square Residence Place: Watford, Hertfordshire, England Occupation: Domestic Servant Line Number: 13 Schedule Number: 233 Sub Schedule Number: 3 Enumeration District: DFSD Borough: Watford Registration district: 140.1.20A Household Members Age George Moles 59 Mary Jane Moles 59 Alice Esther Hull 21 Eileen E Collins 14
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malyon
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1 Dec 2021 23:44 |
thank you that is the family
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ArgyllGran
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2 Dec 2021 00:07 |
This is the 1923 son Frederick George - but not with his father in 1939:
Frederick Hull in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Frederick Hull Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Birth Date: 9 Mar 1923 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 6 Residence Place: Islington, London, England Occupation: Factory Hand Line Number: 34 Schedule Number: 55 Sub Schedule Number: 6 Enumeration District: ALNC Borough: Islington Registration district: 10-4 Household Members Age Alfred W Aldris 45 Annie Aldris 49 Alfred Aldris 16 Terence S Aldris 2 Frederick Hull 16
Frederick George Hull in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Frederick George Hull Death Age: 54 Birth Date: 9 Mar 1923 Registration Date: Apr 1977[May 1977] [Jun 1977] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration District: Islington Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 13 Page: 1547
HULL, FREDERICK GEORGE mmn EDWARDS GRO Reference: 1923 J Quarter in ST. PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 137
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ArgyllGran
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2 Dec 2021 00:19 |
Do you have John's marriage cert, or any of the children's birth certs, to see his age or occupation, or father's name?
This is the only John Hull in St Pancras without a middle name, of a reasonably possible age, and not otherwise accounted for before Esther's death - but of course, your John may not have still been living in St Pancras.
Nor do I see a remarriage 1928-39 to an Ann* - nor to anybody:
John Hull in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: John Hull Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 6 Sep 1876 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 223 Hampstead Road Residence Place: St Pancras, London, England Occupation: Horse Carmen Line Number: 16 Schedule Number: 27 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: ASBG Borough: St Pancras Registration district: 9/1 Inferred Spouse: Annie Hull Household Members Age John Hull 63 Annie Hull 68 - 24 May 1871
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Dec 2021 11:44 |
Just because it came up
Esther Hull in the Web: UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014
Name: Esther Hull Register Type: Burial Death Date: abt 1928 Burial or Cremation Date: 25 Sep 1928 Burial or Cremation Place: Camden, London, England URL: https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=1799355
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malyon
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2 Dec 2021 13:42 |
yes thats her death thank you
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Maddie
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2 Dec 2021 14:09 |
son - Henry District Greenwich Last name Hull County London Gender Male Volume 12 Birth day 9 Page 1073 Birth month 11 Country England Birth year 1920 Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Age - Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death quarter 4 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Death year 1974
Henry Country England Last name Hull Volume 1B Birth quarter 4 Page 198 Birth year 1920 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Mother's maiden name Edwards Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Pancras Subcategory Civil Births County London
Name: Henry Hull Birth Date: abt 1920 Age: 54 Death Date: 13 Oct 1974 Burial Date: 18 Oct 1974 Burial Place: Erith, Kent, England Cemetery: Erith Cemetery Grave Number: GG 215
Name Henry Hull Registration Date Jul 1947 Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district Woolwich Inferred County London Spouse Rosina Burnett Volume Number 5d Page number 2626
Name Rosina Burnett Registration Date Oct 1926 Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district Dartford Inferred County Kent Mother's Maiden Name Mantell Volume Number 2a Page number 974
HULL, ROSINA 1926 GRO Reference: DOR Q2/2011 in KENT (564-1N) Entry Number 504937574
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Maddie
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2 Dec 2021 14:52 |
IF he was born St Pancras and IF was about Esters age
a possibility
John Country England Last name Hull Volume 1B Birth quarter 4 Page 30 Birth year 1892 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Mother's maiden name Fitchett Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Pancras Subcategory Civil Births County London
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 1, Lyon Street, Islington, London & Middlesex, England
William Hull Head Married Male 40 1861 Coach painter Paddington, Middlesex, England Rose Hull Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Islington, Middlesex, England John Hull Son - Male 9 1892 - Paddington, Middlesex, England May Hull Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Paddington, Middlesex, England Freddy Hull Son - Male 2 1899 - Islington, Middlesex, England
think you need his marriage cert
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Dec 2021 15:03 |
When was john hull born ?
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ArgyllGran
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2 Dec 2021 16:23 |
Malyon - apart from the marriage record, everything we've posted about men named John Hull is just guesswork until you get the marriage cert for his age, occupation, and father's name.
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ArgyllGran
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2 Dec 2021 16:46 |
Maddie posted 1901 for a John Hull 1892 - but not the right birth record for that man.
And he's not the John you're looking for, in any case - he had middle name Frederick, and died in 1917.
John Hull in the 1911 England Census Name: John Hull Age in 1911: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Paddington Civil Parish: Islington Country: England Street Address: 32 Hollingsworth St, Islington N Marital status: Single Occupation: Carman Registration District Number: 10 Sub-registration District: Lower Holloway ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Piece: 869 Household Members: Name Age Rose Hull 48 John Hull 19 - Paddington May Hull 18 Frederick Hull 13 William Henry Hull 5
This is that John's birth:
HULL, JOHN FREDERICK mmn CLARK GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 50
His mother's first marriage:
Rose Clarke in the England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973 Name: Rose Clarke Gender: Female Marriage Date: 8 Aug 1875 Marriage Place: All Souls,St Marylebone,London,England Spouse: John Ray
Her second marriage:
Rose Ray in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936 Name: Rose Ray [Rose Clark] Gender: Female Marriage Age: 41 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1858 Marriage Date: 24 Sep 1899 Marriage Place: St James, Clerkenwell, Islington, England Father: John Clark Spouse: William Hull Register Type: Parish Register
John's siblings' births:
HULL, FREDERICK WILLIAM mmn CLARK GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 303
HULL, MAY CHARLOTTE mmn CLARK GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 26
HULL, WILLIAM HENRY mmn CLARK GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 514
He died in 1917:
John Frederick Hull in the UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 Name: John Frederick Hull Birth Place: Paddington, Middlesex Residence: South Tottenham, Middlesex Death Date: 4 Mar 1917 Death Place: France and Flanders Enlistment Place: Mill Hill, Middlesex Rank: Private Regiment: East Surrey Regiment Battalion: 1st Battalion Regimental Number: 32374 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
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