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Mary Hannah Williams b.1852 Cornwall

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Deborah

Deborah Report 25 Oct 2021 10:51

I am trying to help a friend of my cousin. She has sent some information which was given to her by another relation. I have looked on Ancestry,FMP and family search, but I am having trouble making sense of what she has sent me.

Please do not spend too much time on this, but I would be grateful if you could have a QUICK look for me.

She has Mary Hannah/Anne Williams, born 1852 Kenwyn,Cornwall, who married John Henry Duckett,b 1840 Banbury,Oxford,UK. on 1st Feb 1875,New Zealand.

I found a marriage for Mary H Williams to John Duckett, NZ, 1875, no other details.

They "apparently" emigrated to Seattle,USA 1899/1905, but I cant see it.

John Duckett died Seattle, I cant find a death.

Mary then married a Thomas Engstrom in Seattle, I cant see a marriage.

Mary died in Seattle, cant find that either.

What she is asking is for the date of death for John Duckett, the marriage of Mary and Thomas Engstrom, and the birth of 2 children of the marriage Mary and Thomas, and the date of Marys death.

Please don't waste too much time on this, I have been searching all the records I can think of, and would be grateful if you could cast a fresh eye on it for me.

I have come up with bits and pieces but none of it ties together.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 25 Oct 2021 11:27

Have you tried googling to find out what records are available to the public in Seattle?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Oct 2021 11:27

I guess if you have looked at all the sites we would then the info just isn’t showing tbh

Deborah

Deborah Report 25 Oct 2021 11:32

Maddie, I saw the name Kinsman, that's what confused me,

Nameslessone, no I haven't, thankyou for the tip.

Shirley, yes I have, I came to the same conclusion.

Was puzzled by the Kinsman name, maybe there is another marriage, will have to dig deeper.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Oct 2021 11:33

John Duckett
in the New Zealand, Marriage Index, 1840-1937
New Zealand, Marriage Index, 1840-1937 No Image
Text-only collection
Name: John Duckett
Marriage Year: 1875
Marriage Place: New Zealand
Spouse: Mary Hannah Williams
Folio Number: 668

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Oct 2021 11:35

?

John Duckett
in the New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
View New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: John Duckett
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1880-1881
District: Port Chalmers
Region or Province: Otago

Deborah

Deborah Report 25 Oct 2021 11:36

That's the one I found Shirley, but no middle name for John.

Maddie's post has disappeared.

Deborah

Deborah Report 25 Oct 2021 11:37

Thank you Shirley, found both the marriage and the ER, not enough information to be sure.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Oct 2021 11:40

This is what Maddie posted

Sarah Jane Kinsman
[Sarah Jane Duckett]
Gender: Female
Race: White
Marital status: Married
Death Age: 31
Birth Date: 31 Aug 1884
Birth Place: New Zeland
Death Date: 24 Oct 1915
Death Place: Hancock, Houghton, Michigan, USA
Father: John H Duckett
Mother: Mary H Williams
File Number: 874


So was their daughter Sarah born 1884 in New Zealand

Deborah

Deborah Report 25 Oct 2021 11:41

Was just hoping a fresh pair of eyes would see what I was missing.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Oct 2021 11:42

Her birth with little details

Sarah Jane Duckett
in the New Zealand, Birth Index, 1840-1950
New Zealand, Birth Index, 1840-1950 No Image
Text-only collection
Name: Sarah Jane Duckett
Birth Date: Jul-Aug-Sep 1884
Registration Place: Port Chalmers, New Zealand
Folio Number: 3273

Deborah

Deborah Report 25 Oct 2021 11:42

Thank you Shirley, that looks promising.

Deborah

Deborah Report 25 Oct 2021 11:44

So it would seem the name Kinsman is relevant.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Oct 2021 11:54

Another daughter

Hildaguard Duckette
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Birth Date: abt 1887
Marriage Date: 18 Mar 1905
Marriage Place: Hancock, Houghton, Michigan, USA
Father:
John Duckette
Mother:
Mary A. Duckette
Spouse:
Joseph Marks
Film Number: 001008269



Hildeguard Duckett
Birth Date: Apr-May-Jun 1886
Registration Place: Port Chalmers, New Zealand
Folio Number: 2049


So same area and shows they were still in New Zealand

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Oct 2021 11:55

And a son

Wm J Duckett
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 33
Birth Date: abt 1881
Birth Place: New Zealand
Marriage Date: 28 Feb 1914
Marriage Place: Pewabic, Houghton, Michigan, USA
Residence Place: Hancock
Father: John Duckett
Mother: Mary A Williams
Spouse: Maud I Maunder
Record Number: 91

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Oct 2021 11:57

Arriving

DetailSource
Name: Wm Jas Duckett
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1880
Departure Place: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 11 Jul 1902
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Last Residence: Dureden
Friend: John Hart Williams
Ship: Commonwealth

Place of birth New Zealand

Deborah

Deborah Report 25 Oct 2021 11:57

I saw that one as well Shirley, just wasn't sure it was the same family.

Cant make out where the name Engstrom comes from now, maybe mis information.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Oct 2021 12:04

And
Sarah Aged 18 and Thomas aged 13

me: Sarah Duckett
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Birth Date: abt 1884
Departure Place: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 11 Jul 1902
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Last Residence: Dunedin
Friend: John Hart Williams
Ship: Commonwealth

Place of birth New Zealand

Passage paid by uncle

Going to relation John hart Williams

Deborah

Deborah Report 25 Oct 2021 12:09

Thank you Shirley, I did see the name John hart Williams during my research. He must be Mary's brother.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Oct 2021 12:14

Incidentally mary was born 1850

Mary Hannah Williams
Age: 7 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward Williams
Mother's Name: Hannah Williams
Gender: Female
Where born: Crowan, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Crowan
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: Helston
Sub-registration District: St Keverne
ED, institution, or vessel: 1g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 27
Piece: 1913
Folio: 514
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Williams 34
Hannah Williams 23
Mary Hannah Williams 7 Mo
Hannah Williams 80