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I am trying to trace the birth or baptisms of my husbands 2 x great grandparents. They were both born in Ireland. Samuel was born around 1855 in drumlough County down and Mary ann hamill was born in 1857 in carrowdore County down. They moved to Ulverston Lancashire and married in 1879. I have the marriage cert and both death certs but am unable to trace any further back. Mary Ann's father was John and I think Samuel's was Thomas but it does come up with Norman on one of the records. I have no mothers names for either. Any help would be appreciated

Sorry , I don't see any definite sign of their births.


Ancestry suggests this - but it's just a stab in the dark, and I wouldn't put much faith in it:

Samuel Morrison
in the Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name: Samuel Morrison
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 26 Dec 1858
Baptism Place: Inch, Down, Ireland
Father: Samuel Morrison
Mother: Jane Jennings
FHL Film Number: 496723


Both Inch and Drumlough are about 35 miles from Carrowdore, and about 60 miles away from each other.

On their marriage cert, Samuel's father is Norman,and Mary Ann's is John.

I've seen that one, on the actual marriage cert Samuel's father does look more like Thomas. It is very poorly written. I posted a copy of it on Facebook and the majority went with Thomas as well.

I've seen that one, on the actual marriage cert Samuel's father does look more like Thomas. It is very poorly written. I posted a copy of it on Facebook and the majority went with Thomas as well.

Susan

you can try here its a subscription site

https://www.rootsireland.ie/

there is a samuel morrison about 1855 babtised in down

and a mary hamill don,t know if they are yours

There is this baptism for a Mary whose father is John but not in County Down but in the diocese of Down and Connor in County Antrim:-

First name(s) Mary
Father's last name Hammill
Last name Hammill
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Birth year -
Mother's last name Hammill
Baptism year 1857
Repository National Library of Ireland
Baptism date 31 Mar 1857
National Library of Ireland register http://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000633233#page/1/mode/1up
Parish Loughguile
Register Baptism
Alternative parish names Loughuile
Record set Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms
Diocese Down and Connor
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
County Antrim
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Country Ireland
Collections from Ireland
Father's first name(s) John

Kath. x

1881
Name: Alexandrew Hamill
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relationship to Head: Brother in Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Distington
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street Address: Village
Marital status: Widower
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Iron Works Lab
Registration District: Whitehaven
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 5182
Folio: 86
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Morrison 26
Mary Morrison 24
James Morrison
Alexandrew Hamill 31

i cant see a bapt for him 1911 says born 1848 down

a tree on ancestry has the father john born 1828 antrim

1901
Name: John Hamill
Age: 73
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation to Head: Father
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Ireland
Civil Parish: Distington
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Ecclesiastical parish: Distington
Town: Distington
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Whitehaven
Sub-registration District: Harrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 4890
Folio: 17
Page Number: 26
Household Schedule Number: 154
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Hammill 53 --- son
Elizabeth Hammill 43
Joseph Hammill 13
Jane Hamill 12
Frank Hamill 10
Mary A Hamill 8
Alexander Hamill 4
William Hamill 2
John Hamill 73

Name: John Hamill
Age: 80
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Death Registration Place: Whitehaven, Cumberland, United Kingdom
Death Date: Jun 1908
Inferred Death Place: Cumberland, United Kingdom
Volume: 10b
Page: 383

John
Father's last name Hamil
Last name Hamil
Mother's first name(s) M
Birth year -
Mother's last name McEntyre
Baptism year 1828
Repository National Library of Ireland
Baptism date 13 Nov 1828
National Library of Ireland register http://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000633208#page/1/mode/1up
Parish St. Patrick's, Belfast City
Register Baptism
Alternative parish names Donegall Street, Belfast, St. Patrick's
Record set Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms
Diocese Down and Connor
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
County Antrim
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Country Ireland
Collections from Ireland
Father's first name(s) John

The only details I had on John hamill was he was from Ireland and born around 1828 and died 1908, other than that I've not been able to find out anything, it's the same with Samuel morrison. Mary Ann's husband. I've not been able to work out his father's name. I have a copy of there Marriage cert and it looks like it says Thomas. One of the census records say carrodore for Mary but doesn't say birth it says resident and on samuels it says drumlough as resident. I presumed it ment the place of birth but I could be wrong.

Irish records are very patchy.
Unfortunately, it's not unusual not to be able to find any record.