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Please help me, I saw a post on here from a while ago and the account has been deleted since so I can’t get in touch. Whilst researching my grandmothers ancestry as she doesn’t know much I came across a post asking about her (Christina Gladys Rhodes, dob 1923) and her father, Thomas William Rhodes dob 1893/1897. The post was explaining that after my grandmothers mother dying her father remarried in 1924 and had two sons with a Jessie Vernon dob 1904. Unfortunately the second marriage didn’t last and the two children ended up in a children’s home. I can’t find much about Jessie Vernon but the post said she was born in Bell Green Lewisham. My grandmothers father was also based in Lewisham. I can’t find anything at all about the two sons but I would really like to find them and see if this is a true match. Any help would be really appreciated.

Marriages Dec 1924 (>99%)

Rhodes Thomas W Vernon Lewisham 1d 2072
Vernon Jessie Rhodes Lewisham 1d 2072

Age in 1911: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Relation to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Sydenham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Lewisham
Country: England
Street Address: 343 Stanstead Road, Catford SE
Registration District Number: 29
Sub-registration District: Lewisham
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Piece: 2792
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Angus Homes 52
Caroline Angus Homes 47
Hannah Homes 81
Jessie Vernon 6


Name: Jessie Vernon
Gender: Female
Admission Age: 7
Birth Date: 17 Dec 1904
Admission Date: 5 Nov 1912
Admission Place: London, England
School: Gordonbrock Road School
School Address: Brockley
Father: William Vernon

1911 Census For England & Wales
343 Stanstead Road Catford S E, Lewisham, London & Kent, England
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Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Angus Homes Head
Married Male 52 1859 Clerk Hatchan Park New Cross
Caroline Angus Homes Wife
Married Female 47 1864 - Brighton Sussex
Hannah Homes Mother
Widow Female 81 1830 - Ramsdon Heath Essex
Jessie Vernon Niece
- Female 6 1905 - Sydenham Kent

Jessie
County London
Last name Vernon
Country England
Marriage quarter 4
Volume 1D
Marriage year 1924
Volume as transcribed 1D
Registration month -
Page number 2072
MarriageFinder™ Jessie Vernon married one of these people
Thomas W Rhodes
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Spouse's last name Rhodes
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Lewisham
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
District number

VERNON, JESSIE (MMN) GLADWIN
GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in LEWISHAM Volume 01D Page 1258

Births Dec 1923 (>99%)
Rhodes Christina G Mackenzie Lewisham 1d 1653

Marriages Jun 1920 (>99%)
Rhodes Thomas W Mackenzie Christina F St.Martin 1a 7439

Deaths Dec 1923 (>99%)
RHODES Christina F 30 Lewisham 1d 1088

Can't see the alleged births of the sons of the second marriage ..........only one remotely possible on freebmd

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

a maybe
Name: Dennis Rhodes [P Rhodes]
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 27 May 1928
Residence Date: 1939
Address: Childrens Home Eastry
Residence Place: Eastry, Kent, England
Occupation: At School
Line Number: 27
Schedule Number: 2
Sub Schedule Number: 71
OVSPI: Inmate
Enumeration District: DJHJ
Borough: Eastry
Registration district: 64-1

Date: Apr 1928
[May 1928]
[Jun 1928]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Croydon
Inferred County: Greater London
Mother's Maiden Name: Vernon
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 539


Name: Dennis P Rhodes
Registration Date: Jul 1949
[Aug 1949]
[Sep 1949]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Surrey North Eastern
Inferred County: Surrey
Spouse: June M Thompson
Volume Number: 5g
Page Number: 1367

Dennis Philip
District Poole
Last name Rhodes
Register number 1287
Gender Male
County Dorset
Birth day 27
Volume 23
Birth month 5
Page 892
Birth year 1928
Country England
Age -
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Death quarter 4
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Registration Month 12
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Death year 1987
Collections from Great Britain, England

two children born 1952 and 1954 surrey north eastern

Looks like the birth I found is relevant

Name: Dennis Rhodes
[P Rhodes]
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 27 May 1928
Residence Date: 1939
Address: Childrens Home Eastry
Residence Place: Eastry, Kent, England
Occupation: At School
Line Number: 27
Schedule Number: 2
Sub Schedule Number: 71
OVSPI: Inmate
Enumeration District: DJHJ
Borough: Eastry
Registration district: 64-1

RHODES, DENNIS PHILIP 1928
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/1987 in POOLE (4311C) Volume 23 Page 892

Thankyou so much for all of your help, is there anyway to tell if Dennis had children?

Look for births on freebmd - I gave you the link on an earlier post

already posted at 1753
2 born

the girl married 1970 surrey north eastern

sorry cant post details here as they are living

?? Children to Dennis -

Possibly 1950 and 1952 in Surrey North Eastern and then a gap until 1960 same RD and at a push and depending on when they ? moved to Poole (Dennis died there), another in that RD 1963. If Dennis was born in 1928 and his wife of a similar age, then she would only be c35 if the last birth was theirs. Not seeing a marriage in that area with same nation of surnames, although there are others elsewhere.

This seems to be Jessie's death:

Deaths Mar 1977
RHODES JESSIE 17DE1904 WORTHING 18 2399

Rose

Name: Jessie Peskett
[Jessie Rhodes]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 17 Dec 1905>>>>>>>
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 149
Residence Place: Sutton and Cheam, Surrey, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties

not with Thomas Rhodes.

Here's the posting from Julie:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1129515?

Rose

There's a Cecil Rhodes also at the children's home in Eastry.

This appears to be his death, based on his dob:

Name: Mr Cecil Arthur Rhodes
Sex: Male
Age: 84
Residence Postal Code: CH46 7
Death Date: 9 Jul 2009
Death Place: Wirral, Merseyside, England, United Kingdom
Death Place (Original): Wirral, Merseyside, England
Birth Date: 29 Oct 1925
Source Postal Code: CH46

Not seeing a birth that matches in England or Wales.

He was living alone from 2002-2009.

Rose

If you search Family Trees on here, there's a Mark who has both Dennis and Cecil in his tree.

Rose

Possible marriage for Cecil in 1947 to a Margaret and then 4 children.

Rose

Rhodes, Cecil Arthur. Service number: R294547. Date of birth: 29/10/1925.
Reference: BT 391/92/30
Description:
Name: Rhodes, Cecil Arthur.
Service number: R294547.
Date of birth: 29/10/1925.
Date: 1944-1945
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record(s)
Closure status: Open Document, Open Description

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9468995