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Small family 1939

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John

John Report 12 Aug 2021 12:44

On the 1939, did they not register the children under a certain age. Is it possible to find the following children in 1939 surname Small all born in Gravesend Kent. Alice DD b 1925, Phoebe b 1927, Iris F b1928, Ronald HE b 1930, Frederick R b 1931. Their mother Ada E nee McLeod died in 1931 Gravesend. Just wondering if these children were fostered out or living with their father Donald Small in Gravesend. Many thanks

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Aug 2021 13:08

They should be on the register, but may be 'closed records ' ie not visible, to protect their privacy, if they might be still living or their death has not been noted in relation to the register.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 12 Aug 2021 13:10

All children would be on the 1939 but you would not be able to view those who are either still living or whose entries have not been update since they died..

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Aug 2021 13:12

62 Ingoldsby Road, Gravesend, Gravesend M.B., Kent, England

Donald Small 07 Jan 1896 Male River Seaman Donkey Man ? Married 187 1
The record for this person is officially closed.

Dorothy (M) Small (Osborne) 10 Sep 1897 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 187 3

ALL children were recorded................the transcribed records may be redacted if the death has not been picked up

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Aug 2021 13:15

If Donald was a river seaman donkey man born 1896, living with a Dorothy Small born
1897, there is one closed record living with them at 62 Ingoldsby Rd Gravesend.

The record could be a child of Donald and Dorothy, rather than Donald and Ada, though. Haven't checked to see if they had any offspring.

SNAP, ErikaH

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Aug 2021 13:17

There are 9 Small/McLeod births in Gravesend on freebmd

Maddie

Maddie Report 12 Aug 2021 14:00

First name(s) Ada E
Last name Small
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1899
Age 32
Death quarter 1
Death year 1931
District Gravesend


Donald
Last name Small
Birth year 1894
Age 23
Marital status Bachelor
Occupation Seaman
Marriage year 1917
Marriage date 25 Dec 1917
Father's first name(s) Michael Duncan
Father's last name Small
Father's occupation Fireman, Deceased
Spouse's first name(s) Ada Edith
Spouse's last name McLeod
Spouse's birth year 1898
Spouse's age 19
Spouse's condition Spinster
Spouse's father's occupation Fishmonger
First witness J W McLeod
Second witness W J Sharp
Marriage place Milton-Next-Gravesend, Christchurch
County Kent

Donald
Last name Small
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1944
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ Donald Small married one of these people
Dorothy M Osborne
Spouse's last name Osborne
District Chatham

cant see any birth for donald and dorothy

Maddie

Maddie Report 12 Aug 2021 14:15

Name: Donald J W Small
Death Age: 0
Birth Date: abt 1919
Registration Date: Jan 1919
[Feb 1919]
[Mar 1919]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Gravesend
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1147

Name: Ada E Small
Death Age: 3
Birth Date: abt 1922
Registration Date: Oct 1925
[Nov 1925]
[Dec 1925]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Strood
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 887

Name: Alice Dorothy D Walling mn small / mcleod
Death Age: 71
Birth Date: 5 Feb 1925
Registration Date: Oct 1996
Registration District: Gravesend
Inferred County: Kent
Register Number: T21A
District and Subdistrict: 5621A
Entry Number: 35

Name: George V D Small
Death Age: 1
Birth Date: abt 1924
Registration Date: Oct 1925
[Nov 1925]
[Dec 1925]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Strood
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 887

Name: Marjorie A Small
Death Age: 4
Birth Date: abt 1921
Registration Date: Oct 1925
[Nov 1925]
[Dec 1925]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Strood
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 887

Name: Iris Florence Field --- mn small/mcleod
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: 26 Oct 1928
Registration Date: Jul 2002
Registration District: Gravesend
Inferred County: Kent
Register Number: T32A
District and Subdistrict: 5621A
Entry Number: 215

Name: Phoebe L Small
Registration Date: Oct 1948
[Nov 1948]
[Dec 1948]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Chatham
Inferred County: Kent
Spouse: William C Sparks

Name: Phoebe L Sparks
Registration Date: Jan 1967
[Feb 1967]
[Mar 1967]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Dartford
Inferred County: Kent
Spouse: Kenneth H Martell

Name: Phoebe Lillian Martell
Death Age: 64
Birth Date: 21 Mar 1927
Registration Date: Aug 1991
Registration District: Southwark
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 15
Page: 128

2 out of the 9 appear to be living

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Aug 2021 15:19

Their deaths all appear to have been too recent for their records to be open on the 1939 Register and the records of living people certainly shouldn't be open

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Aug 2021 15:24

Marriages Jun 1944 (>99%)
OSBORNE Dorothy M Small Chatham 2a 2641
SMALL Donald Osborne Chatham 2a 2641

The child on the 1939 should be Donald's as it is record no 2

As Dorothy is recorded as married, one assumes they had to wait for her husband to die, or a divorce, before they could marry

John

John Report 12 Aug 2021 15:52

Actually Dorothy Osborne, was my friends grandmother but just wanted to know about Donald Small and where his family were after his wife died in 1931. Presumed in the household of their father Donald Small and Dorothy Osborne and she moved in to look after them, although my friend didn’t know anything about them, but she herself was only born in 1939. Obviously the Small children had left home by then so there was no need to know. There were no children of Donald Small and Dorothy Osborne so the blanked out one on 1939 must have been a child of Donald Small. Many thanks , cleared it up about the 1939 register.