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Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 49,504 Send Message	Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it	Report	10 Aug 2021 05:38
	This looks like Elizabeth baptism Maybe the second name refers to a father! Elizabeth Gammon May Gender: Female Christening Date: 21 Dec 1851 Christening Place: Aylesford, Kent, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Mother: Mercy Ann May Search Photos: Search for 'Aylesford' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
	Researching: Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 49,504 Send Message	Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it	Report	10 Aug 2021 05:30
	You can get his death cert for its info Still a young man too ! Jesse James P Honey Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place: North Aylesford, Kent, United Kingdom Death Date: Mar 1873 Inferred Death Place: Kent, United Kingdom Volume: 2a Page: 257
	Researching: Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957
Member Since: June 2004 Posts: 123 Send Message	Derek	Report	10 Aug 2021 01:07
Member Since: June 2004 Posts: 123 Send Message	Many Thanks everyone - I think it confirms that Elizabeth was illegitimate as was her first son Jesse James Paul May - she must have lived as partner with Jesse Senior giving the son Honey surname although i can find no record of a marriage. Jesse senior dies in Jan 1873 when his son is a little over 1 year old - I have no idea what he suddenly died of, but if his job was a bargee and a dangerous occupation it could be he died by drowning or accident. I remember some story of him dying in the Port of London, but this may have been confused with Robert Wilson's later accident and drowning in Maidstone. I believe Elizabeth May lived with Robert Wilson for awhile as she had a son Robert John May( again illegitimate ) born in 1877 ( later called May Wilson, then officially Wilson after the marriage to Robert Wilson in Aug.1878. She would have known the Honeys and the Wilsons by association via barges and river work and location in Bonneys Yard area of poor housing in King Street Maidstone. Alas with illegitimacy, tracing parentage is impossible. Sadly it closes that route.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	9 Aug 2021 23:19
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	Several trees on Ancestry, but none name her Mother, never mind a Father
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	9 Aug 2021 23:11
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	1881 census wrongly transcribed - Jesse James and Robert John do not have the surname Wilson, the original shows them as MAY 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 2, Havock Place, Maidstone, Kent, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Robert Wilson Head Married Male 31 1850 Captain of barge Holbrook, Suffolk, England Elizabeth Wilson Wife Married Female 28 1853 Wife of captain of barge Maidstone, Kent, England Jesse James Paul Honey May Wilson Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Maidstone, Kent, England Robert John May Wilson Son Single Male 4 1877 - Maidstone, Kent, England Thomas Wilson Son Single Male 2 1879 - Maidstone, Kent, England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	9 Aug 2021 22:59
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	Do you have the certificate - does she name a Father and his occupation when she marries in 1878 ??
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	9 Aug 2021 22:53
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	Evening Kathleen! Jesse James birth reg. MAY, JESSE JAMES - GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in MAIDSTONE Volume 02A Page 627 and that of Robert John MAY, ROBERT JOHN - GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in MAIDSTONE Volume 02A Page 641
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	9 Aug 2021 22:49
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	For out INFO - the census you site 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Bomb Alley, Maidstone, Kent, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Jesse Honey Head - Male 24 1847 Bargeman Kent, England Elizabeth May Mistress - Female 20 1851 Mill Hand, Kent, England Jesse May Son - Male 0 1871 - Kent, England All said to be born in Maidstone
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 28,261 Send Message	KathleenBell	Report	9 Aug 2021 22:49
	SNAP, greyghost :-) Kath. x
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 28,261 Send Message	KathleenBell	Report	9 Aug 2021 22:48
	Could this birth be a possibility? :- First name(s) Elizabeth Last name May Birth quarter 4 Birth year 1851 Mother's maiden name May District Maidstone County Kent Country England Volume V Page 359 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Births Collections from Great Britain, England Kath. x
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	9 Aug 2021 22:47
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	IF this is her birth registration it indicates that her surname is the same as her Mother's ie illegitimate Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: MAY, ELIZABETH - GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in MAIDSTONE Volume 05 Page 359 In which case you may never know her Father's name. The certificate would at least give her Mother's name to help place her maternal line
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Member Since: June 2004 Posts: 123 Send Message	Derek	Report	9 Aug 2021 21:43
Member Since: June 2004 Posts: 123 Send Message	I have come up to a dead end in trying to find something about parentage of my Great Grandmother. She was born Elizabeth May and I believe in Maidstone Kent. in 1871 census she was listed as Mistress to Jesse James Paul Honey b 1847 with baby son Jesse James Paul. Junior) Jesse Senior died in Jan 1873 ( Bomb Alley King street Maidstone. ) She later co habitted with my Grandfather Robert Wilson b 1849 d 1892 ,She had a son Robert John May b 1877 ( later adopted as Wilson) assume originally illigitimate son ) in 1878 they had a second son Thomas Wilson. Robert and Elizabeth Married in Aug 1878 with 6 further children. Robert was a barge captain dying in a river accident at Maidstone Nov 4th 1892 leaving a large family including my future grandmother. Alas i have nothing or can find no records for Elizabeth May / Honey / Wilson - she died in Bonneys Yard King Street Maidstone - this was a poor housing area of Victorian terraced cottages and I believe Bomb Alley may well have been in close proximity. It would be nice to establish parentage and siblings of Elizabeth May. I have suspicions she may have links to the river transport and barges with dubious parentage and may be why she doesn't appear in official records unless i have missed a trick. Jesse senior and Junior were both bargees. I would appreciate any help and express my thanks in anticipation.

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