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Hi was wondering if some one can help please , im a bit confused ,On the 1911 census Walter Palmer 1880, Ada Palmer born Bagnall 1881, children Stanley Rowland Palmer 1905, Clifford 1903 , Beatrice 1910 , Charles William Surtees 1868 . I believe he was married to Annie Mary Palmer born 1873, she was Walter 1880 sister Auntie to Beatrice 1910 . Now going on to 1939 census i have Beatrice Morris i brackets Palmer. also Albert E.R. Morris born 1903, and Florence .L. Dickenson widowed born 1869. Went on free bmd for marriages there is a marriage in 1933 for Albert E.R.Morris married to Beatrice Dickenson.is this the same Beatrice .any help i would be thankfull for thanks Janette

Posting 1911 for INFO

Walter Palmer Head Married Male 30 1881 Gas work labourer Yorkshire Sheffield
Ada Palmer Wife Married Female 30 1881 - Yorkshire Sheffield
Stanley Rowland Palmer Son - Male 6 1905 - Yorkshire Sheffield
Clifford Palmer Son - Male 3 1908 - Yorkshire Bradford
Beatrice Palmer Daughter - Female 1 1910 - Yorkshire Sheffield
Charles William Surtees Boarder Married Male 40 1871 Gas works labourer Yorkshire Sheffield

AND 1939 referred to above

Albert E ? Morris 02 Feb 1903 Male Wrought Iron Works Charge Hand Gasman (Heavy Worker) Married 227 1
Beatrice Palmer (Morris) 14 Sep 1910 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 227 2
The record for this person is officially closed.

Florence L Dickenson 13 Nov 1869 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 227 4


Clearly, Beatrice Morris re-married - to a Palmer

Marriages Dec 1958 (>99%)
MORRIS Beatrice PALMER Rotherham 2c 1111
PALMER Gerald MORRIS Rotherham 2c 1111


Not sure why you think that a Morris marriage to Dickenson has any connection to Beatrice (maiden name) Palmer.............

PALMER, BEATRICE BAGNALL
GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW Volume 09C Page 373

Hi ErikaH thank you just altered the dates must have wrong glasses on this morning

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Name: Beatrice Palmer
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep 1928
Registration District: Ecclesall Bierlow
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Spouse: Shik P Lo Or Ping
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 921


Name: Beatrice Lo
Death Age: 82
Birth Date: 14 Sep 1909
Registration Date: Feb 1992
Registration District: Sheffield
Inferred County: South Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 1681

I didn't query any dates.................... :-S :-S

There is this memorial inscription

First name(s) Beatrice
Last name Palmer
Birth year 1910
Death year 1997
Death date ? ? 1997
Place Masbrough
Description Psalters Lane Municipal Cemetery

Inscription In Loving Memory of/ ALBERT EDWARD RABY/ MORRIS/ beloved husband of BEATRICE/dear father of JEAN/ died 7th Jan 1958 aged 53 years/ In Loving Memory of/ GERALD PALMER/ beloved husband of BEATRICE/ and dear stepfather of JEAN/ died 10th July 1974 aged 64 years/ We shall be together again/ In Loving Memory of/ BEATRICE PALMER/ beloved wife of ALBERT & GERALD/ died 31st Oct 1997 aged 87 years/ Together again.

Memorial reference W1097
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Record set Yorkshire Monumental Inscriptions

There is a photo of the Headstone on FMP

1939 for the mother

9 Montague Road, Sheffield, Sheffield C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Ada Palmer 02 Dec 1880 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 125 1
Muriel Gooch (Palmer) 23 Oct 1913 Female Sweet Packer Incapacitated Single 125 2

Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
Palmer Muriel Bagnell Ecclesall B 9c 788

Marriages Sep 1941 (>99%)
Gooch Frederick P Palmer Sheffield 9c 1717
Palmer Muriel Gooch Sheffield 9c 1717

Beatrice PALMER did not marry MORRIS

That woman was Dickenson at birth

This is the Beatrice you refer to born in 1909 not 1910

PALMER, BEATRICE MMN BAGNALL
GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW Volume 09C Page 373

Baptism?

First name(s) Beatrice
Last name Palmer
Birth year -
Baptism year 1909
Baptism date 27 Oct 1909
Baptism place Owlerton, St John the Baptist
Dedication St John the Baptist
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Walter
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) Ada
Residence 9 Montagu Road (same address as 1911 Census)

It looks very much like she was Beatrice Lo

1939

Name: Ping Loo
[Shik Ping Lo]
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 17 Dec 1901
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 394
Residence Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation: Laundry Proprieter
Line Number: 20
Schedule Number: 177
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: KIGG
Borough: Sheffield
Registration district: Sheffield 510/2.
Inferred Spouse:
Beatrice Loo
Household Members Age
Ping Loo 38
Beatrice Loo 30 Birth Date: 14 Sep 1909
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
Ling Dong 33

Hi , i thought as it said Beatrice Morris in brackets Palmer on 1939 census and there being a Florence Dickinson also,when finding Albert E R Morris married to Beatrice Dickinson i thought it was the same Betrice .So it is a different lady. so is the memorial a different Beatrice and not mine thanks Janette

Yours is shown above

Thank you for your help Janette :-)

Yours was a different Beatrice not Beatrice Morris so the Memorial is not your Beatrice.

It looks like your Beatrice became Beatrice Lo, Janette.

Re 1939

Always look at the image

And remember that for some bizarre reason women who marry after the date it was taken are transcribed under the MARRIED name……………….with the name at the time shown in brackets

Hi thank you again ,sounds like Beatrice married a chines person ,so he might be hard to trace family ,thanks again Janette

probate to beatrice
119 gipton wood road leeds
died 5/2/1967
£3775

Name: Shik Ping Lo
Death Date: 5 Feb 1967
Death Place: Leeds
Probate Date: 13 Apr 1967
Probate Registry: Wakefield

Name: Shik R Lo
Death Age: 68
Birth Date: abt 1899
Registration Date: Jan 1967
[Feb 1967]
[Mar 1967]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2c
Page: 256

not on 1911 census and cant see arrival in uk