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Looking for info on Caroline M Lombardi (b1899)

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jun 2021 17:31

Lorraine -
various categories showing how tricky it is to research Italian ancestors;

https://www.cyndislist.com/italy/

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Italy_Civil_Registration

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jun 2021 17:24

I know Lorraine's not asking about Michael, and I'm sure she's seen the Ancestry trees, which only "know" the same small amount about Caroline -
but just for interest -

Michael's parents' marriage:

Elizabetta Lemarro
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Elizabetta Lemarro
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Holborn
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 1239
Records on Page:
Name
Casimiro De Paolo
Elizabetta Lemarro


DE PAOLO, MICHAEL mmn LEMARRO
GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 970


Seven trees on Ancestry says that Casimiro de Paolo was born 21 Feb 1852 in Atina, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy - but give no proof other than the 1911 census which only says Italy.
Father: Pietratonio Clemente Di Paolo
Mother: Anna Tortolani
The tree says his wife was also born there, but again no proof.

Re Caroline -
some of the trees say she was born in Naples, but have no proof.
A couple say her father was Henry - but mother unknown, and no info about Henry/Henrico

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jun 2021 16:43

Casimiro ice creams seem to be centred on Milan, Italy at present - did they start there? Although perhaps have spread around the world.

I don't do facebook so can't tell you more

If that's where the family came from you may stand more of a chance of finding Italian records

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jun 2021 16:36

Living with parents - same address as when he attested

Michael Cashmere in 1911
1911 Census For England & Wales
1 Cockles Cottages, St Paul Deptford, London & Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Paolo Cashmere Head Married Male 54 1857 Ice cream merchant Italy
Elizabeth Cashmere Wife Married Female 54 1857 House work Italy
Michael Cashmere Son Single Male 22 1889 Ice cream merchant Brook Mill Road
Thomas Cashmere Son Single Male 20 1891 Biscuit making Deptford Mill Road
Amy Cashmere Daughter Single Female 19 1892 Factory Deptford Mill Road



greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jun 2021 14:01

Michael was buried 26 July 1933 at Brockley Cemetery, Lewisham

A Hawker aged 45, died at St Olave's Hospital. Of 206 Trundleys Road. Roman Catholic

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jun 2021 13:54

Caroline (as Cashmere) was at 206 Trundleys Road in 1918 -35, per London ERs.

Michael was there 1918-30, per ERs

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Jun 2021 13:40

She was living at 206 Trundleys road with Michael in 1927

Caroline Cashmere
Electoral Date: 1927
Ward or Division/Constituency: Deptford and Finsbury
County or Borough: Lewisham, England


Michael death

Deaths Sep 1933
Cashmere Michael 45 St.Olave 1d 94

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Jun 2021 13:35

Marriages Sep 1935
Boon Frederick G Cashmere Deptford 1d 2432
Cashmere Caroline Boon Deptford 1d 2432

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jun 2021 13:34

In 1911, John Hutt Gillett and his family lived at that address.

I can't find 18 New King Street on London Electoral Rolls around 1915.
In 1912, 1913 and 1915 some numbers in New King Street are listed, but others, including No.18, are not.

In any case, only the main householder is listed - no way to know who else might have lived at any address - a lodger, for instance.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Jun 2021 13:32

Did she remarry?

206 Trundleys Road, New Cross, Lewisham, Deptford, London, England

Frederick (Fred G) Boon 26 Nov 1902 Male General Labourer Married 123 1
Caroline (Marlene) Boon 13 Oct 1899 Female Press Stamp Operator Married 123 2
Harry Cashmere 12 Jul 1920 Male Iron Foundry Labourer Single 123 3
Doris (L) Attwell (Cashmere) 21 Sep 1921 Female At Blind School Single 123 4
John Cashmere 06 Feb 1924 Male Nail Stamping Nife Operator Single 123 5
Ref: RG101/0119D/011/15 Letter Code: AFHH
© Findmypast Ltd

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Jun 2021 13:30

Several children born

Births Sep 1916
Cashmere Mary L Lombard Greenwich 1d 1682
Births Dec 1917
Cashmere Elizabeth G Lombardi Greenwich 1d 1221
Births Sep 1920
Cashmere Henry M Lombardi Greenwich 1d 1909
Births Dec 1921
CASHMERE Doris L Lombard Greenwich 1d 1605
Births Mar 1924
Cashmere John F Lombardi Greenwich 1d 1491

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jun 2021 13:20

Michael's Service records WW1 say he was born in England, both parents born Italy.

His wife was born in Italy - they married 19 August 1915 Greenwich

He attested 29.2.1916 aged 27 of 1 Cockles Cottages, Speedwell Street, Deptford
Demobbed 15.10.19 - address for pay 206 Trundley Road, Deptford
He was and ice cream vendor and caterer

Off to watch the tennis!

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jun 2021 13:07

Marriages Sep 1915 (>99%)

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

Cashmere Michael Lombardi Greenwich 1d 3020
Casimiro Michael Lombardi Greenwich 1d 3020
Lombardi Caroline [K_] Cashmere Greenwich 1d 3020
Lombardi Caroline [K_] Casimiro Greenwich 1d 3020

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 20 Jun 2021 13:01

Looking for parents of Caroline Marcella Lombardi.
Earliest record is marriage in 1915 Michael Cashmere. She was 17.
Father was Harry Lombardi (deceased).
Address given 18 New King Street, Deptford, London.
Supposedly came to England as a child from Italy. No known siblings or mothers name.
Cannot find on 1911 census.
Looked for Enrico Lombardi (italian Harry, Henry)

Does anyone have access to any records that shows who lived at the address above in 1915 and the few years before. May offer a clue.

thanks

Lorraine