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18 Jun 2021 16:37 |
I have Alexander McKensie married to Ann Louise Wynne in 1821 st Botoph without Bishopgate London would someone see if there is parents for the couple please?
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jun 2021 16:49 |
Ann Louisa Wynne in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936 Name: Ann Louisa Wynne Gender: Female Record Type: Banns (Bann) Marriage Banns Date: 22 Dec 1821 Marriage Banns Place: St Botolph Without Bishopsgate, City of London, England Spouse: Alexander Mackenzie Register Type: Parish Register
In theory there's an image on Ancestry, but in fact the images jump from 14th to 23rd December. In any case, judging by the other banns records, no parents are mentioned.
There's no image of this other record on either Ancestry or FS:
Ann Louisa Wynne in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Ann Louisa Wynne Gender: Female Marriage Date: 22 Dec 1821 Marriage Place: Saint Botolph Bishopsgate,London,London,England Spouse: Alexander Mackenzie FHL Film Number: 380150, 380151
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jun 2021 16:49 |
However, is this Ann's baptism?
Ann Louisa Wynne in the London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 Name: Ann Louisa Wynne Gender: Female Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 19 Oct 1800 Baptism Place: St Marylebone, Westminster, Middlesex, England Father: Chas Wynne <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Mother: Ann Wynne <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Register Type: Parish Register
Ann L M Henzie in the 1851 England Census Name: Ann L M Henzie [Ann L McKenzie] Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 <<<<<<<<<<<< Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England <<<<<<<<<<< Civil Parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: Hoxton St John Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration District: Shoreditch Sub-registration District: Hoxton New Town ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 39 Piece: 1535 Folio: 476 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Ann L M Henzie 50 Eliza N Henzie 19
Ann Lousia Mackenzie in the 1861 England Census Name: Ann Lousia Mackenzie Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: 1800 <<<<<<<<<<<< Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: Hoxton St John the Evangelist County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration District: Shoreditch Sub-registration District: Hoxton New Town ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 13 Piece: 238 Folio: 28 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Ann Lousia Mackenzie 61
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Maddie
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18 Jun 2021 16:51 |
Name: Alexander Mackenzie Gender: Male Record Type: Banns (Bann) Marriage Banns Date: 22 Dec 1821 Marriage Banns Place: St Botolph Without Bishopsgate, City of London, England Spouse: Ann Louisa Wynne Register Type: Parish Register
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Sidami
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18 Jun 2021 17:04 |
Many thanks for your time I have Ann bn 26th July 1800 St Mary St Marylebone rd but can’t remember where I got that from does this sound like same person I am not from this area?
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jun 2021 17:16 |
???
Ann McKinzer in the 1841 England Census Name: Ann McKinzer [Ann Mackenzie] Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Female Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Giles Without Cripplegate Hundred: London Without the Walls County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Chapel Street Occupation: View image Registration District: East London Sub-registration District: Cripplegate Neighbors: Piece: 727 Book: 4 Folio: 20 Page Number: 35 Household Members: Name Age Alexander McKinzer 40 - house agent, Ireland [which could easily mean Scotland ] Ann McKinzer 40 Alexander McKinzer 15 Ann McKinzer 6 Mo Jane Gare 45
Possibly not the right family - the daughter Eliza who's in the 1851 census isn't with them. But Alexander's occupation is the same as at Eliza's marriage (below).
Eliza's baptism;
Eliza Noble Mackenzie England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Eliza Noble Mackenzie Sex: Female Christening Date: 24 Jul 1831 Christening Place: St Giles without Cripplegate, London, England, United Kingdom Christening Place (Original): Saint Giles Cripplegate, London, London, England Birth Date: 24 Jun 1831 Father's Name: Alexander Mackenzie Father's Sex: Male Mother's Name: Ann Louisa Mother's Sex: Female
and marriage:
Eliza Noble McKenzie in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936 Name: Eliza Noble McKenzie Gender: Female Marriage Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1831 Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1852 Marriage Place: St Mary, Haggerston, Hackney, England Father: Alexander McKenzie, house agent Spouse: Richard Langhorn Register Type: Parish Register
And I see that's where the Langhorn connection comes in, per your other threads.
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ErikaH
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18 Jun 2021 17:17 |
No info about parents on marriage records prior to the start of Civil Registration in 1837.
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jun 2021 17:18 |
You asked about Ann's birth.
Marylebone is right, per the 1851 census above. She could well have been born in July but not baptised until October.
EDIT:
Looking again at the image of the baptism record, it does say born 26 July.
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Maddie
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18 Jun 2021 17:20 |
Anne Louisa Last name McKenzie Age 66 Birth year 1800 Death year 1866 Death date ? ? 1866 Burial year 1866 Burial date 20 Jan 1866 Place Hackney, Victoria Park Cemetery Burial place as transcribed London Denomination - County Middlesex
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census ????????? Chapel Street, St Giles Without Cripplegate, East London (City of London), London First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Male Alexander McKenzie Male 40 1801 Ireland Female Ann McKenzie Female 40 1801 Middlesex, England Male Alexander McKenzie Male 15 1826 Middlesex, England Female Ann McKenzie Female 0 1841 Middlesex, England Female Jane Gare Female 45 1796 Middlesex, England
Alexander Fletcher Last name Mc Kenzie Gender Male Birth year 1825 Birth place - Baptism year 1825 Baptism date 11 Mar 1825 Residence St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England Place Without Cripplegate County London Country England Father's first name(s) Alexander Father's last name Mc Kenzie Mother's first name(s) Ann Louisa
Charlotte Last name Mc Kenzie Gender Female Birth year 1828 Birth place - Baptism year 1828 Baptism date 28 Sep 1828 Residence St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England Place Without Cripplegate County London Country England Father's first name(s) Alexander Father's last name Mc Kenzie Mother's first name(s) Anna Louisa
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Sidami
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18 Jun 2021 17:23 |
You are all brilliant Thankyou for your time
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Maddie
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18 Jun 2021 17:26 |
Name: Francis Mackenzie Death Age: 8/12 Event Type: Burial Birth Date: abt 1836 Death Date: abt 1837 Burial Date: 24 Aug 1837 Burial Place: London, Middlesex, England
Name: Francis Mackenzie Gender: Male Baptism Age: 0 Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 22 Jan 1837 Birth Place: England Baptism Date: 26 Feb 1837 Baptism Place: St Giles Without Cripplegate, City of London, England Father: Alexander Mackenzie ---- housec agent Mother: Ann Louisa Mackenzie Register Type: Parish Register
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