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Canadian birth DAVID GEORGE JONES (22/09/1907)

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Agee

Agee Report 12 Jun 2021 21:00

Can anyone tell me how to find a Canadian birth certificate please?

Marriage and death certificates in the UK state that DAVID GEORGE JONES was born on 22nd September 1907 in Montresse (? transcription / spelling error for Montrose) Canada.

By 1911 it appears that the family are in Porthcawl South Wales with mother Mary Annie Jones (nee Morgan) and father George Henry Jones

BUT I cannot locate a birth record or confirmation of travel back to the UK..

All and any suggestions very much appreciated.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jun 2021 22:11

Surely UK marriage certs don’t have birthplace info.

What does 1911 say about his birthplace?

greyghost

greyghost Report 12 Jun 2021 22:37

George David Jones in 1911
1911 Census For England & Wales
3 Star Cottages South Road Porthcawl, Newton Nottage, Glamorganshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

George Henry Jones Head Married Male 42 1869 Masons labourer Longtown Herefordshire
Mary Annie Jones Wife Married Female 34 1877 - Glam Swansea
George David Jones Son - Male 3 1908 - Canada Montrense
Bertha Phillis Jones Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Glam Porthcawl

Original looks more like ?Montreuse, google suggests Montrose in British Columbia

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Jun 2021 22:58

JONES, BERTHA PHYLLIS mmn MORGAN
GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in BRIDGEND Volume 11A Page 944

George Henry Jones
in the Glamorganshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1570-1994
Name: George Henry Jones [ checker on the G W Railway ]
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: 1870
Marriage Date: 8 Mar 1898
Marriage Place: Newton Nottage, Glamorganshire, Wales
Father: Thomas Jones, labourer
Spouse: Mary Annie Morgan <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Page number: 152

Mary Annie's father: David Morgan, occupation something ending in "-aker".

Witnesses: Edward Evan Jones and Margaret Ann Williams.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Jun 2021 23:17

In 1911 census, "Montreuse" is written in ink, on top of " Montreal" in pencil.

Agee

Agee Report 12 Jun 2021 23:25

Thank you all - just back on line and reading through replies. Will respond shortly.

Agee

Agee Report 12 Jun 2021 23:29

Thank you - all hints really helpful as they confirm what I found in 1911 census.
but I am struggling to know how to confirm his birth in Canada. Is there anyway I can view / research there?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Jun 2021 23:44

His birth may not be online (I certainly can't see it) - Canada is strict about how long records remain unavailable online.

Advice here on Canadian records:
https://www.cyndislist.com/canada/bmd/

Agee

Agee Report 13 Jun 2021 15:13

ArgyllGran thank you very much

Maddie

Maddie Report 14 Jun 2021 12:09

there seems to be no travel records for his parents to or from canada

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jun 2021 12:29

Where are the parents in 1901?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Jun 2021 15:17

Different POB for George, but same occupation as at marriage.

Geo Jones
in the 1901 Wales Census
Name: Geo Jones
Age in 1901: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Head
Spouse: Mary A Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Goviton, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Abersychan
Town: Snatchwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Pontnewynydd St Luke
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration District: Pontypool
Sub-registration District: Pontypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 90
Piece: 4945
Folio: 134
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Geo Jones 30 - checker with G W R
Mary A Jones 24 - Swansea
Maggie Morgan 3 - sister-in-law, Porthcawl.


???
MORGAN, MARGARET -
GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in BRIDGEND Volume 11A Page 832

EDIT:

NO, not that birth. See next post for correct one.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Jun 2021 15:43

Young Maggie in 1911 with her parents (who are, of course, also Mary Annie's parents):


Maggie Morgan
in the 1911 Wales Census
Name: Maggie Morgan
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Porthcawl, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Swansea
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 48 Colbourne Terrace Swansea
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Schoolgirl
Registration District: Swansea
Registration District Number: 594
Sub-registration District: Swansea
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Household Schedule Number: 339
Piece: 32788
Household Members:
Name Age
David Morgan 56
Mary J Morgan 57
Nell Morgan 24
Gertrude Morgan 19
Eva Morgan 17
Wallace Morgan 15
Maggie Morgan 13

Maggie's birth:

MORGAN, BERTHA MAGGIE mmn STEPHENS
GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in BRIDGEND Volume 11A Page 840


MORGAN, EVA mmn STEPHENS
GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 1019

MORGAN, GEORGE WALLACE mmn TEPHENS
GRO Reference: 1896 M Quarter in BRIDGEND Volume 11A Page 812

MORGAN, GERTRUDE mmn STEPHENS
GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 916


Mary Annie with parents and siblings:

David Morgan
in the 1891 Wales Census
Name: David Morgan
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary J Morgan
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Swansea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Swansea
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration District: Swansea
Sub registration district: Swansea
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors:
Piece: 4481
Folio: 20
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
David Morgan 36
Mary J Morgan 37
Mary A Morgan 14 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Henry J Morgan 12
William Morgan 8
Nellie Morgan 4



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jun 2021 15:46

Name: George Jones
Age: 27
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1869
Residence Date: 9 Jul 1896
Station: Porth
Company: Great Western
Description: Register and histories of traffic staff at stations in Wales 1871-1903

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Jun 2021 15:51

No help with Canada - but posting for the record:

George H Jones
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: George H Jones
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1869
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 78
Residence Place: Porthcawl, Glamorganshire, Wales
Occupation: Lamplighter
Line Number: 41
Schedule Number: 265
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: XJZC
Borough: Porthcawl
Registration district: 591/2
Inferred Spouse:
Mary A Jones
Inferred Children:
Wallace H Jones
Household Members Age
George H Jones 70
Mary A Jones 94 - [mistranscribed. Age 64 - DOB 1 Feb 1875 ]
Wallace H Jones 19


Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Jones Wallace H Morgan Bridgend 11a 2134

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Jun 2021 16:06

??? Maybe ??
But George Jones is a very common name.

Mrs George Jones
in the Canada, Arriving Passengers Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Mrs George Jones
Gender: Female
Arrival Age: 34 [ looks like 30 to me ]
Birth Year: abt 1871
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 23 Jul 1905
Arrival Port: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Kensington


Travelling with husband George, general labourer, age 31? [ 37? ]
Both from Glamorgan.
Destination: Toronto.

Transcription says "Mrs", but it's unclear on image - could be Mary or M A.

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Agee

Agee Report 18 Aug 2021 17:16

Thank you all so much for the advice and assistance. I will follow up.