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Thank you on one census he dose put down john T Anderson I can’t see a West Ham family member coming to Wales to work in the coal mines but that’s just me But if they were in jail maybe he mite have iv only just started back on my family trees and JOHN is a Mistery ???? I will look in to what you have found

Thanks a million Rob :-)

There's this one , but age slightly out - I can't see his parents, or him definitely in any census other than 1881.

And your John doesn't have any middle names stated at marriage, death (1919) , or in 1891, 1901, or 1911 - so this is probably a red herring:


ANDERSON, JOHN JAMES THOMAS mmn REYNOLDS
GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 41


John Jas.Thos. Anderson
in the 1881 England Census
Name: John Jas.Thos. Anderson
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relationship to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Brentford, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Feltham
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: "Middlesex County Industrial School" Feltham
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Detained Under Industrial Schools Act
Registration District: Staines
ED, institution, or vessel: Middlesex County Industrial School
Neighbors:
Piece: 1327
Folio: 134
Page Number: 26


This would seem the most obvious marriage of parents - but they DON'T have a son John born in the 1860s:

John Anderson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: John Anderson
Registration Year: 1852
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 84
Records on Page:
Name
John Anderson
Sarah Reynolds


This is that couple in 1871 - so NOT the family of John James Thomas:


John Anderson
in the 1871 England Census
Name: John Anderson
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: 1825
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Crayford Kent England
Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Church Street
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 169
Piece: 1627
Folio: 51
Page number: 31
Household Members Age Relationship
John Anderson 46 Head
Sarah E Anderson 41 Wife
John G Anderson 15 Son - also with family in 1861, aged 5
Samuel K Anderson 14 Son
Emma S Anderson 11 Daughter
Hexander Anderson 8 Son
Sophia E Anderson 5 Daughter
Jane M Anderson 3 Daughter
Alice B Anderson 1 Daughter
Robert Durrant 72 Lodger
Robert Parker 18 Grandson

ANDERSON, EMMA SARAH mmn REYNOLDS
GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in WEST HAM UNION Volume 04A Page 21

ANDERSON, JOHN GEORGE mmn REYNOLDS
GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in WEST HAM UNION Volume 04A Page 27

ANDERSON, SAMUEL HENRY mmn REYNOLD
GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in WEST HAM UNION Volume 04A Page 27



There were several John Andersons with no middle names born in other parts of London 1864-66. It's a very common name.

Iv got the marriage details hoping to purchase them tomorrow so hope to get his farthest name to help
And thanks for looking and the advice any mor clues would be much appreciated

Thanks Rob :-)

As both 1901 and 1911 say his birthplace was Brentford, that may be more likely to be correct(ish) than Wigton.

Do you have the marriage cert?
What was his father's name?

Thank you very much everything ties up except the marriage in Anglesey
Il go to work on the Wigtown in Scotland

Thanks again good luck :-)

there is a wigtown in scotland
so just in case

Scotland, Modern And Civil Births 1855-2019
First name(s) John
Gender Male
Last name Anderson
Birth year 1865
Birth place Stranraer,Wigtown,Scotland
County Wigtownshire
Country Scotland
Place Stranraer
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Mother's last name McCrackan
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Anderson
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland

johns marriage cert should confim father

1911 census
John Anderdson
Age in 1911: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Llandybie
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County/Island: Carmarthenshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: Rock House Cwmnantarw C Hendre
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner Hewer
Registration District: Llandilofawr
Registration District Number: 598
Sub-registration District: Llandybie
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Household Schedule Number: 107
Piece: 32982
Household Members:
Name Age
John Anderdson 47. Born Brentford
Mary Anderson 46
Robert J Anderson 20
William Anderson 17
David Anderson 14
Joepsh Anderson 3

Married 21 years 6 children born 5 still living

Birth

ANDERSON, ROBERT JOHN ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1890 S Quarter in LLANDILOFAWR Volume 11A Page 993

John
Last name Anderson
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1889
Registration month -

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John Anderson married one of these people

Mary Roberts, Margaret Daniel
District Llandilofawr

1901
Roch House, Blaenau, Llandebie, Llandilofawr, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Male
John T Anderson
Head
Married Male 36 1865 Coalminer hewer Brentford, Middlesex, England
Female
Mary Anderson
Wife
Married Female 35 1866 - Llandebie, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Male
Robert J Anderson
Son
- Male 10 1891 - Llandebie, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Male
William Anderson
Son
- Male 7 1894 - Llandebie, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Male
David Anderson
Son
- Male 5 1896 - Llandebie, Carmarthenshire, Wales

Is this the marriage?

Name: Robert John Anderson
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: 1887
Marriage Date: 10 May 1911
Marriage Place: Llanfaes, Anglesey, Wales
Father:
John Anderson
Spouse:
Mary Roberts
Page number: 55
Provided in association with Archifrau Cymru: Archives Wales



Dates a bit out !

Edit possibly not. Different family

for ref

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Gorsfach, Maesglas, Llandebie, Llandilofawr, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Household members (3 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Male
John Anderson
Head
Married Male 25 1866 Colliery labourer Wigton, Cumberland, England
Female
Mary Anderson
Wife
Married Female 25 1866 - Llandebie, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Male
Robert J Anderson
Son
- Male 0 1891 - Llandebie, Carmarthenshire, Wales

Gwyn Anderson born 1920 Carmarthenshire is my Grandfarther his dad was Robert Anderson born 1890 Carmarthenshire his dad is the john I can’t trace ferther born 1866 he also had sons David and William I think there was Joseph an a daughter but not shure

who was your grandfatherr

Sorry he was living in llandeilofawr Carmarthenshire in 1891 to 1911
And he was born 1866 were ???

Please help iv got my GG Granfarther in Wales married to Mary Roberts 1890
Got him In all census from 1891 but his birth place are all different on them all
1 Brentford
2 Wigtown Cumberland
3 Wigan Carmarthenshire which dose not exist

He was a coal hewer

Any help would be much appreciated Thanks