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William H Adams - Toronto

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John

John Report 5 Jun 2021 21:20

Thank you all for your hard work, its very kind of you all
Best Wishes
Chris

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jun 2021 18:34

We can rule out the 1877 child - he's still in Cannock in 1939:

William H Adams
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: William H Adams
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widow
Birth Date: 22 Feb 1877
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 43 Mill St
Residence Place: Cannock, Staffordshire, England
Occupation: Council Labourer
Line Number: 35
Schedule Number: 262
Sub Schedule Number: 4
Enumeration District: ORKI
Borough: Cannock
Registration district: 368/5
Household Members Age
Samuel Coates 33
Florence M Coates 29
Kenneth B Coates 2
William H Adams 62
John W Adams 27
Gertrude E Adams 21

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jun 2021 18:32

Marriage of parents of 1873 child above:

Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
Adams Henry Penkridge 6b 625
Allsopp Jane Penkridge 6b 625


William H. Adams
in the 1881 England Census
Name: William H. Adams
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Henry Adams
Mother: Jane Adams
Gender: Male
Where born: Bushbury, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Bushbury
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Holmes Cottage
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Scholar
Registration District: Cannock
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Piece: 2782
Folio: 35
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Adams 31
Jane Adams 29
William H. Adams 8
Mary E. Adams 6
Clara Adams 4
Arthur Adams 2
Frederick W. Allsopp 20

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jun 2021 18:24

Possibly Maria's brother William in 1881 - doesn't seem likely to have become a service engineer or foreman by 1920s:

William Adams
in the 1881 England Census
Name: William Adams
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship to Head: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Brewood, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Brewood
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Gunstone Cottage
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Cowman (A L)
Registration District: Cannock
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Piece: 2781
Folio: 65
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
William Turner 59
Mary Turner 57
William Adams 20


If William H was perhaps a cousin, there are lots of possible births in Staffordshire alone. -
particularly these three:

ADAMS, WILLIAM HENRY mmn ALLSOPP
GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in PENKRIDGE Volume 06B Page 471

ADAMS, WILLIAM HENRY mmn WINFER
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in CANNOCK Volume 06B Page 517

ADAMS, WILLIAM HENRY -
GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in CANNOCK Volume 06B Page 508


But of course he may have been born elswhere.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jun 2021 18:12

Probably Maria's father John in 1841:

John Adams
in the 1841 England Census
Name: John Adams
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Shareshill
Hundred: East Cuttlestone
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
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Registration District: Penkridge
Sub-registration District: Cannock
Neighbors:
Piece: 973
Book: 21
Folio: 4
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
John Adams 16
William Hall 14
Anne Cope 17


???
John Adams
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: John Adams
Sex: Male
Christening Date: 23 Oct 1822
Christening Place: Shareshill, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Christening Place (Original): Shareshill, Stafford, England
Father's Name: Stephen Adams
Father's Sex: Male
Mother's Name: Hannah
Mother's Sex: Female


Baptisms of siblings in Shareshill:

Hannah 1828
Elizabeth 1830
Robert 1833
Jane 1835

Also possibly others in Brewood:

Ann 1819
James 1820 (died 1824)
Stephen 1825
George 1838
William 1843

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jun 2021 17:35

For our reference -

this is Thomas Smith's marriage - address 33 Harvie Avenue:


Thomas Smith
in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1826-1938
Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 40
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birth Place: England
Marriage Date: 25 Oct 1927
Marriage Place: York, Ontario, Canada
Father: Leonard Smith - born England
Mother: Maria Adams
Spouse: Susan Maude Kerr


Marriages Mar 1886
ADAMS Maria Cannock 6b 564
Smith Leonard Cannock 6b 564


Maria Adams
in the Staffordshire, England, Birth, Marriage and Death Indexes, 1837-2017
Name: Maria Adams
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 1886
Marriage Church: St Mary
Marriage Place: Shareshill, Staffordshire, England
Registration District: South Staffordshire
Spouse: Leonard Smith


Maria Adams
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Maria Adams
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Coven, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Shareshill and Hilton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Main Road The Ostre House
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Servant (Dom)
Registration District: Cannock
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors:
Piece: 2787
Folio: 111
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Emma Adcock 50
Edward F.F. Bougher 50
Allice Ford 20
Maria Adams 19


Maria Adams
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Maria Adams
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: 1862
Relation: Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Lackes Staffordshire England
Civil parish: Shareshill
Ecclesiastical parish: Shareshill
Town: Shareshill
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Penkridge
Sub-registration district: Cannock
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 70
Piece: 2926
Folio: 113
Page number: 18
Household Members Age Relationship
John Adams 48 Head
Maria Adams 46 Wife
George Adams 20 Son
Joseph Adams 15 Son
William Adams 11 Son <<<<<<<< ???
Maria Adams 9 Daughter
James Adams 6 Son
Fanny Adams 3 Granddaughter
Allice Adams 1 Granddaughter


ADAMS, MARIA mmn FELTON
GRO Reference: 1862 J Quarter in PENKRIDGE Volume 06B Page 393


Maria's brother William has no middle name at birth reg.

ADAMS, WILLIAM mmn FELTON
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in PENKRIDGE Volume 06B Page 382

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 5 Jun 2021 15:25

Chris, what do you know about Thomas Smith's mother whose maiden name was Adams?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jun 2021 15:04

He's not at 121 Ascot Avenue in 1921 Census.

There's a family there who I can see on the image, but who don't seem to come up when searching by name.

The image is blurry, but hovering the cursor over the names it says

Osaid Emma (though it looks like David Brown to me), 39, Scotland, immigrated 1908.
Kate Emma (Brown?), wife, 38, England,, immigrated 1909.
Edith, daughter, 8, Ontario.
Isabel, daughter, 6, Ontario
Helen, daughter, 2, Ontario.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jun 2021 13:49

More from Toronto City Directories:


He's still living at 33 Harvie Ave in 1929 directory:

ADAMS, Wm H, foreman, Galena-Signal Oil, [house] 33 Harvie Ave.

https://archive.org/details/torontocitydirectory1929/page/70/mode/2up

Still there in 1931, same address, still a foreman.

I don't see him in Toronto in 1932.

In 1931 Galena-Signal was absorbed by Valvoline.
https://patrailsofhistory.com/historical-markers/galena-signal-oil-company



Pre-1927 - (not looking at every year )

he's at 33 Harvie Ave in 1925, foreman with Galena-signal
1920 and 1922 - foreman with Galena-Signal, living at 121 Ascot Ave.

1915 - labourer with Galena-Signal ,living at 123 (128 ?) Ascot Ave.
1914 - labourer with GS, living at 53 Hatherley road, Earlscourt.
1912 - ditto, resident Earlscourt.

I don't see him in 1911 with that or obviously similar employer.


ADDED:
William H is not the William Henry or William Harold born in 1906 in the records posted as suggestions by Shirley.
He's clearly older than that.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jun 2021 13:03

1927 Toronto City Directory -

https://archive.org/details/torontocitydirectory1927/page/n1/mode/1up


Entry under Adams (on page 54):

ADAMS, Wm H, service engineer, Galena Signal Oil Co.
h [house ] 33 Harvie Ave.


Entry under Smith (on page 1032):

SMITH, Thos., clerk, Customs Dept, bds [ boards at] , 33 Harvie Ave.


Searching under surname, each person is listed alphabetically, so if there was anyone else living with William Adams it would mean looking through thousands of Adams (and other - eg - Smith) entries to find any at the same address


Entry under the street name (page 1357):

Adams, Wm H.

Only the heads of households are listed for each address when searching under street names.

EDIT:
I've looked through the Adams entries - none living with William, or at least not listed.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Jun 2021 11:13

Have you researched the Adams line thoroughly?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Jun 2021 10:51

The voters list don’t give actual addresses

John

John Report 5 Jun 2021 10:48

Hello
Forgot to say William was a service engineer with the Galena signal oil company
Best Wishes
Chris

John

John Report 5 Jun 2021 10:44

Hello
William was the witness to the marriage of my relative Thomas Smith who was living with William in 1927. I am trying to establish the connection between the two. Thomas s mother was an Adams

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Jun 2021 10:43

William Henry Adams
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Birth Year: abt 1906
Birth Place: Toronto
Marriage Date: 16 Oct 1937
Marriage Place: Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada
Father:
Wm H. Adams
Mother:
Alice Adams
Spouse:
Audrey Mary Powell


Without further info don’t know if this the right people !

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Jun 2021 10:41

?

William Harold Adams
Birth Date: 1906
Death Date: 1981
Cemetery: Greenwood Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Burlington, Halton Regional Municipality, Ontario, Canada
Has Bio?: N
Spouse:
Audrey Adams
URL:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/147488366/william-harold-adams

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Jun 2021 10:37

With William H Adams bookkeeper

Mrs William H Adams
Gender: Female
Residence Date: 1940
Residence Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Electoral District: Eglinton
Reference Number: M-4777

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Jun 2021 10:34

Just as things come up

William H Adams
in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
View Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
Name: William H Adams
Residence Date: 1953
Residence Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Electoral District: Eglinton
Occupation: Salesman
Reference Nu

Seems to be with a mrs Audrey Adams

No actual address

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Jun 2021 10:32

You say you know very little about him but how have you got to him ?

John

John Report 5 Jun 2021 10:00

Hello
Does any kind soul have access to the 1927 Toronto city directory.
I am looking for William H Adams who was living at 33 Harvie Av.
Any information on William would be helpful as I know very little.

Thank you very much for any help you can give
Chris