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ArgyllGran
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22 May 2021 10:08 |
In the 1891 census which I posted, John (by then a widower) is listed as an inmate of the Kings Lynn Union Workhouse. The transcription posted above says so, and the image says the same.
John's wife was Harriett, as shown in the 1861 marriage record posted above, and the 1881 census, and her 1890 death record. The 1871 census above calls her Hannah, but that will just be a mistake on the part of the enumerator.
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ErikaH
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22 May 2021 09:44 |
Which census? And have you looked at the image to see where he was an inmate? It more usually is the Workhouse
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Steven
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22 May 2021 00:38 |
so I know my Mary married an Etherington and her maiden name is Cozen, so I don't think its this Mary Ann woman but a Charles James Nunn was a witness to Mary and Francis' wedding going by the information shared on this thread.
Plus was John Cozens wife a Harriet or Hannah?
also did John Cozens end up in prison? as he is mentioned as inmate in the census?
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21 May 2021 14:49 |
Edith Maude Eleanor Last name Etherington Baptism year 1908 Baptism date 08 Nov 1908 Place Burpham, St Luke Residence Slyfield Cottage Slyfield Green Stoke Next Guidton Father's first name(s) Francis Father's occupation Labourer Mother's first name(s) Mary Jane Edith County Surrey Country England Archive Surrey History Centre Archive reference 7848/1/1 Register type Baptisms Year range 1859-1993 Page 60
Francis Last name Etherington Birth year 1905 Birth date 18 May 1905 Baptism year 1905 Baptism date 10 Sep 1905 Place Burpham, St Luke Residence Slyfield Cottage Slyfield Cottage Green Stoke Burpham Father's first name(s) Francis Father's occupation Labourer Mother's first name(s) Mary Jane Edith County Surrey Country England Archive Surrey History Centre Archive reference 7848/1/1 Register type Baptisms Year range 1859-1993 Page 56
George Frederick Last name Etherington Baptism year 1906 Baptism date 02 Sep 1906 Place Burpham, St Luke Residence Slyfield Green Stoke West Guildford Father's first name(s) Francis Father's occupation Labourer Mother's first name(s) Jane Edith County Surrey Country England Archive Surrey History Centre Archive reference 7848/1/1 Register type Baptisms Year range 1859-1993 Page 58
George Frederick Last name Etherington Baptism year 1906 Baptism date 02 Sep 1906 Place Burpham, St Luke Residence Slyfield Green Stoke West Guildford Father's first name(s) Francis Father's occupation Labourer Mother's first name(s) Jane Edith County Surrey Country England Archive Surrey History Centre Archive reference 7848/1/1 Register type Baptisms Year range 1859-1993 Page 58
no other bapt on fmp
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Maddie
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21 May 2021 14:39 |
the above mary Mary Ann Elizabeth Last name Etherington Age 19 Marital status Spinster Birth year 1858 -------------- Marriage year 1877 Marriage date 01 Dec 1877 Marriage place Stoke Next Guildford, St John the Evangelist Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Etherington Father occupation Labourer Spouse's first name(s) Charles James Spouse's last name Nunn Spouse's age 25 Spouse's birth year 1852 Spouse's occupation Private In 2nd Queens Spouse's condition Bachelor Spouse's father's occupation Deceased First witness George Hetherington Second witness Margarett Gaff County Surrey Country England Archive Surrey History Centre Archive reference STK/2/6 Register type Marriages Year range 1867-1883
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ErikaH
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21 May 2021 14:17 |
Trying to 'pin down' Lawrence.............................probably way off the mark, but........................
Name: Lawrence Nunn Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Father: Charles Nunn Mother: Mary Nunn Birth Place: Worplesdon, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Worplesdon Ecclesiastical parish: Burpham and Worplesdon St Mary County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration District: Guildford Sub-registration District: Woking ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 598 Folio: 42 Page Number: 11 Household Schedule Number: 52 Household Members: Name Age Jno Etherington 75 Charles Nunn 45 Mary Nunn 43 Agnes Mary Nunn 5 Lawrence Nunn 2
Name: Mary Ann Elizabeth Etherington Gender: Female Marriage Date: 01 Dec 1877 Marriage Place: Stoke Next Guildford,Surrey,England Father: John Etherington Spouse: Charles James Nunn
NUNN, AGNES MARY ETHERINGTON GRO Reference: 1895 S Quarter in GUILDFORD Volume 02A Page 61
Name: Agnes Mary Nunn Baptism Date: 14 Jul 1895 Baptism Place: Burpham, St Luke, Surrey, England Parish as it Appears: Worplesdon Father: Charles James Nunn Mother: Mary Ann Elizabeth Nunn
Can't see a birth for the boy
Name: Agnes Mary Nunn Gender: Female Marriage Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1894 Marriage Date: 2 Nov 1915 Marriage Place: Woking, St Paul, Surrey, England Parish as it Appears: Woking, Christ Church Father: Charles James Nunn Spouse: John William Long
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ErikaH
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21 May 2021 13:07 |
Francis in 1901
George Carter Head Married Male 33 1868 General labourer Shadwell, Middlesex, England Ellen Carter Wife Married Female 29 1872 - Worplesdon, Surrey, England Lillian May Carter Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Worplesdon, Surrey, England Violet Mabel Carter Daughter - Female 3 1898 - Worplesdon, Surrey, England Francis Etherington Boarder Single Male 30 1871 General labourer Worplesdon, Surrey, England
In 1911 'Kate' says she's been married fo 8 years and had 5 children - however, one of the five is presumably Lawrence who definitely wasn't born during the marriage
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ArgyllGran
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21 May 2021 12:04 |
Re her father's supposed middle name Thomas -
there is no death of a John Thomas Cozens (or variation of spelling) of a likely age, anywhere in England/Wales, 1870-1902. .
The only John Thomas Cozens (or other spelling) I can see in the Kings Lynn area is one born in 1859 - so highly unlikely to be Mary's father, as he was only 11 in 1870.
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Maddie
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21 May 2021 12:00 |
Frank Last name Etherington Birth year 1870 Birth date 12 Jul 1870 Event year 1878 School name St Mary's Church Of England (Later Perry Hill Board/council) School, Worplesdon Town Worplesdon County Surrey Country England Parent's name(s) William Etherington Book type Admissions Archive Surrey History Centre Archive reference CC42/2/1
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Maddie
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21 May 2021 11:55 |
Mary Jane Edith Last name Cozens Age 32 Marital status Spinster Birth year 1870 Marriage year 1902 Marriage date 06 Dec 1902 Marriage place Worplesdon, St Mary Father's first name(s) John Thomas Father's last name Cozens Father occupation Station Master, Deceased ---------------- Spouse's first name(s) Frances Spouse's last name Etherington Spouse's age 32 Spouse's birth year 1870 Spouse's occupation Labourer Spouse's condition Bachelor Spouse's father's occupation Labourer, Deceased First witness Charles James Nunn Second witness Lucy Etherington County Surrey Country England Archive Surrey History Centre Archive reference WOR/2/5 Register type Marriages Year range 1893-1917
a little bit more detail
Mary Jane Edith Last name Etherington Birth year 1872 Burial year 1932 Age at death 60 Burial date 13 Feb 1932 Place Burpham, St Luke Residence Rose Cottage Jacob's Wells Worplesdon County Surrey Country England Archive Surrey History Centre Archive reference 7848/1/7 Register type Burials Year range 1859-1997 Page 35 Record set Surrey Burials
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ArgyllGran
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21 May 2021 09:21 |
Perhaps this is Mary ??? BUT father is not a station-master as stated at marriage, and apparently without the middle name Thomas in any record, although certainly deceased by 1902.
Perhaps a flight of fancy, along with taking a couple of years off her age ???
COZENS, MARY JANE EDITH mmn COX GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in KINGS LYNN Volume 04B Page 367
Mary Jane Ada Cozens in the Norfolk, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1919 Name: Mary Jane Ada Cozens Baptism Age: 0 Birth Date: Abt 1868 Baptism Date: 13 Mar 1868 Baptism Place: South Lynn All Saints, Norfolk, England Father: John Cozens Mother: Harriet Cozens
John Cozens in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: John Cozens Gender: Male Age: 33 Birth Date: 1828 Marriage Date: 19 Jul 1861 Marriage Place: St. Margaret'S, Lynn, Norfolk, England Father: William Cozens Spouse: Harriett Cox
Mary A Couzens in the 1871 England Census Name: Mary A Couzens Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: 1868 Relation: Daughter Gender: Female Where born: Kings Lynn Norfolk England Civil parish: All Saints County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district: King Sub-registration district: Kings Lynn South ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 11 Piece: 1865 Folio: 90 Page number: 2 Household Members Age Relationship John Couzens 46 Head - lighterman Hannah A Couzens 35 Wife John Couzens 8 Son Mary A Couzens 3 Daughter George Couzens 6/12 Son
Mary Cozens in the 1881 England Census Name: Mary Cozens Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relationship to Head: Daughter Father: John Cozens Mother: Harriet Cozens Gender: Female Where born: Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: South Lynn County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street Address: Goat Yard Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration District: King'S Lynn ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: Piece: 2000 Folio: 93 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age John Cozens 56 - porter Harriet Cozens 45 John Cozens 20 Mary Cozens 12 George Cozens 10 Harriet Cozens 7
Mother died 1890:
Harriet Ann Cozens in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Harriet Ann Cozens Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Registration Year: 1890 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 53 Registration District: King's Lynn Inferred County: Norfolk Volume: 4b Page: 205
John Cozens in the 1891 England Census Name: John Cozens [ widower, retired labourer ] Gender: Male Age: 65 Relationship: Inmate Birth Year: 1826 Birth Place: Lynn, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: South Lynn Ecclesiastical parish: South Lynn All Saints Residence Place: South Lynn, Norfolk, England Registration District: King Sub registration district: King ED, Institution or Vessel: Kings Lynn Union Workhouse Neighbors: Piece: 1570 Folio: 139
John Cozens in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: John Cozens Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Registration Year: 1895 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 68 Registration District: Freebridge Lynn Inferred County: Norfolk Volume: 4b Page: 217
So far, I don't see Mary in 1891. Sister Harriett is with brother George and their Cox grandparents. Brother John died in 1890.
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ArgyllGran
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21 May 2021 08:31 |
It was Francis who filled in the 1911 census form - so "Kate" isn't a mistake. Kate must just have been what Mary was known as in the family.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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21 May 2021 08:26 |
Can’t find any births for Lawrence under etherington or cozens
Death
Deaths Mar 1932 Etherington Mary J E 60 Guildford 2a 211
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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21 May 2021 06:43 |
1911 census
She was being called Kate
Francis Etherington Age in 1911: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Worplesdon, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Guildford Search Photos: Search for 'Guildford' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Country: England Street Address: 9 Elm Grove, Stoughton Road, Guildford Marital status: Married Years Married: 8 Estimated Marriage Year: 1903 Occupation: Farm Labourer Registration District Number: 33 Sub-registration District: Guildford ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Piece: 3080 Household Members: Name Age Francis Etherington 40 Kate Etherington 40 Lawrance Etherington 12 Francis Etherington 5 George Etherington 4 Edith Etherington 3 Lilian May Etherington 1
Name: Lilian May Etherington Baptism Date: 1 May 1910 Baptism Place: Burpham, St Luke, Surrey, England Parish as it Appears: Worplesdon Search Photos: Search for 'Burpham, St Luke' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: Francis Etherington Mother: Mary June Edith Etherington
Name: Francis Etherington Baptism Age: 0 Birth Date: 18 May 1905 Baptism Date: 10 Sep 1905 Baptism Place: Burpham, St Luke, Surrey, England Parish as it Appears: Worplesdon Search Photos: Search for 'Burpham, St Luke' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: Francis Etherington Mother: Mary Jane Edith Etherington
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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21 May 2021 06:39 |
Name: Mary Jane Edith Cozens Gender: Female Marriage Age: 32 Record Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1870 Marriage Date: 6 Dec 1902 Marriage Place: Worplesdon, St Mary, Surrey, England Parish as it Appears: Worplesdon Search Photos: Search for 'Worplesdon, St Mary' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: John Thomas Cozens Spouse: Frances Etherington
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Steven
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21 May 2021 01:05 |
Hi,
Could anyone help me find more information on Mary Jane Edith Cozens Married to Francis Etherington, records show they married in 1902 , mother and father of Edith Maud Eleanor Etherington born 1908 in Guildford (she married James Peters).
As the Francis I found who had a daughter Edith was married to a Kate in 1903 so unsure if this is the same Francis or....i think they got the name wrong in the 1911 census...
Any info would be greatly appreciated,
Sarah
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