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You will have to do the research, Caris, but do please be very careful of your approach if you think of contacting any possible descendants. Suggesting that their ancestor may have fathered an illegitimate child could cause a lot of distress.

However, not sure how you have arrived at your conclusion, as it doesn’t look as though anything posted on here links him to the couple in East Anglia.
Unless, of course, you have done a vast amount of research in the last few days.

i believe frederick a moore b 1916 mmn ricketts is my nans father. now im trying to find any living relatives or if he had other children. also trying to find any photos of him if i can.

No, nor can I, but some London ‘pieces’ for 1861 are not available

In my post at 15.04, I was referring to the one born c1892 with MMN Fuce

Interestingly, at Madeline and Marmaduke's baptism in 1861, their father "Wallis" is said to be an antiquarian.


No, can't see Marmaduke 1858's birth reg.

Can't see the family in 1861 either.

Deaths Sep 1890 (>99%)
Moore Marmaduke Frank 0 Kensington 1a 123


MOORE, ARTHUR FUCE
GRO Reference: 1891 S Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 156
MOORE, FREDERICK HUMPHREY FUCE
GRO Reference: 1893 M Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 179
MOORE, HENRY JAMES FUCE
GRO Reference: 1896 S Quarter in CHELSEA Volume 01A Page 407

Odd...........no birth reg for Wallace/Marmaduke - as far as I can see just now.

When the above married Frederick Scott, she gave her father's name as Marmaduke - and she'd 'lost' a few years

Name Madeline Moore
Gender Female
Marriage Age 27
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1864
Marriage Date 2 Aug 1891
Marriage Place Saint John, Walham Green, Hammersmith and Fulham, England
Father Marmaduke Moore, Deceased, Carpenter
Spouse Frederick Scott

Name Madeline Henrietta Scott
Age 29
Estimated Birth Year abt 1864
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place Fulham, London, United Kingdom
Death Date Mar 1893
Inferred Death Place London, United Kingdom
Volume 1a
Page 238

MOORE, MADELINE HENRIETTA JACQUES mmn HARRIS
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 275

Apologies if already posted.

Ancestry links this to the baptisms

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
St Catherine Street, St Catherine, Gloucester, Gloucestershire & Somerset, England
Mary A Harris Head - Female 78 1793 - Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Harris Daughter - Female 30 1841 - Gloucestershire, England
Marmaduke Moore Grandson - Male 12 1859 - London, Middlesex, England
Madeline Moore Granddaughter - Female 10 1861 - London, Middlesex, England
Henry Bennett Boarder - Male 25 1846 - Herefordshire, England
Charles Hodges Boarder - Male 20 1851 - Herefordshire, England

The above would suggest that Ellen's maiden name was Harris, BUT..............can't find a marriage to Wallis/Wallace Moore

Name Mariana Duke Wallis Moore
[Marmaduke Wallis Moore]
Gender Male
Age 2
Birth Date 29 May 1858
Baptism Date 11 Feb 1861
Baptism Place St John the Evangelist, Smith Square, London, Westminster, England
Father Wallis Moore
Mother Ellen Moore

Name Madeline Moore
Gender Female
Age 0
Birth Date 21 Dec 1860
Baptism Date 11 Feb 1861
Baptism Place St John the Evangelist, Smith Square, London, Westminster, England
Father Wallis Moore
Mother Ellen Moore

Name Marmaduke Wallace Moore
Registration Year 1889
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district Kensington
Inferred County London
Volume 1a
Page 370
Records on Page (Name)
Louisa Annie Fuce
Marmaduke Wallace Moore


MOORE, MARMADUKE FRANK FUCE
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 172

Use all the information you have been given and plan out family trees on paper. You are likely to find you have more than one family and you may be able to sort out your queriies yourself.
don't forget that your dna matches give you more information than we have.

It is impossible to determine with any certainty who your grandmother’s father was, without working back from him and hoping that you find a connection to Stephen

thank you, i appreciate your help.
i am follwoing up on all information but im struggling to take it all in as so many names and some are same names too such as 2 wallace moore in same family
so the frederick moore of my nan father is likly frederick alfred moore born 1916 fulham? was his brother wallace moore then?
also just to confirm fredericks father is wallace moore or marmaduke wallace moore? sorry to be a pain.

Looking back through the thread, I see that I have duplicated a lot of info that was posted 3 years ago, so I have to wonder whether the poster followed it up :-S :-S

Don’t completely dismiss females. They may have had children out of wedlock and used the mother’s surname.

On Ancestry use the group matching system which may help you sort out your matches.

Name Wallace Moore
Trial Age 27
Birth Date abt 1892
Trial Date 23 Jul 1919
Trial Place Clerkenwell, London, England
Occupation Millwright
Charge Receiving; Stolen
Found Guilty

1921 Census Of England & Wales
122, Townmead Road, Fulham, London & Middlesex, England

Elizabeth Ricketts Head Female 1863 58 Christchurch, Hampshire, England Home Duties -
George Ricketts Son Male 1903 17 Fulham, London, England General Labourer Shell, Mix
William Ricketts Nephew Male 1905 15 Chelsea, London, England General Labourer Shell, Mix
George Ricketts Nephew Male 1910 11 Chelsea, London, England School Townmead Rd, School
Wallace Moore Boarder Male 1893 28 Kensington, London, England Engineers Steam Fitter Phitel And Tocy Private, Out Of Work
May Moore Boarder Female 1894 27 Christchurch, Hampshire, England Home Duties -
Wallace Moore Boarder Male 1914 7 Fulham, London, England - -
Frederick Moore Boarder Male 1916 5 Fulham, London, England - -
Arthur Moore Boarder Male 1919 2 Fulham, London, England - -
William Moore Boarder Male 1920 1 Fulham, London, England -


Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
Moore Wallace Ricketts Fulham 1a 926
Ricketts May Moore Fulham 1a 926


MOORE, FREDERICK ALFRED RICKETTS
GRO Reference: 1916 M Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 561


Name Frederick Alfred Moore
Death Age 75
Birth Date 1 Jan 1916
Registration Date Nov 1991
Registration district Lambeth
Inferred County Greater London
Volume 14
Page 378


RICKETTS, GEORGE ALFRED BREWER
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 351

Marriages Mar 1886 (>99%)
Brewer Elizabeth Christchurch 2b 894
RICKETTS Alfred Christchurch 2b 894

From the report of the 1936 robbery
Date of publication 7th August

Wallace Moore, 44, Wheelwright
Wallace Moore, 27, Carpenter
Frederick Albert Moore, 24, Lorry Driver
Arthur Moore, 17, Labourer

ALL of 548 Fulham Road...............NOT at the address in 1939
Remanded for eight days


Publication date 28th August

Frederick stated that his father, Wallace, and younger brother Arthur, knew nothing of the robbery.
He and his brother Wallace jnr both pleaded guilty

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Green, Hempnall, Depwade, Norfolk, England

George Moore Head Married Male 38 1813 Farm laborer Hempnall, Norfolk, England
Luisa Moore Wife Married Female 39 1812 - Shelton, Norfolk, England
John Moore Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Ag lab Alburgh, Norfolk, England
James Moore Son Unmarried Male 13 1838 - Hempnall, Norfolk, England
Charles Moore Son Unmarried Male 10 1841 - Hempnall, Norfolk, England
George Moore Son - Male 7 1844 - Hempnall, Norfolk, England
Sarah Moore Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Hempnall, Norfolk, England
Rebecca Moore Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Hempnall, Norfolk, England

The following are SUGGESTIONS - you will have to verify

Name Charles Moore
Gender Male
Record Type Baptism
Baptism Date 14 Mar 1841
Baptism Place Hempnall, Norfolk, England
Father George Moore**************************
Mother Louisa Moore


William Moore
9 May 1812
Baptism
10 May 1812
Little Fransham, Norfolk
Stephen,
Phoebe

Phoebe Moore
25 Jun
Baptism
27 Jun 1807
Little Fransham, Norfolk
Stephen,
Phoebe

Maria Moore
11 Nov
Baptism
11 Nov 1809
Little Fransham, Norfolk
Stephen,
Phoebe

Maria Moore
abt 1810
Burial
14 Mar 1815
King's Lynn, St Margaret, Norfolk

George Moore***********************
Baptism
6 Apr 1817
Gayton, Norfolk
Stephen,
Phæbe

Maria Moore
Baptism
12 Dec 1819
Gayton, Norfolk
Stephen,
Phæbe

James Moore
Baptism
10 Apr 1822
Gayton, Norfolk
Stephen,
Phebe

Samuel Moore
Baptism
10 Aug 1823
Gayton, Norfolk
Stephen,
Phæbe

Now follow-through - systematically - the line from Stephen and Phoebe.............

Good luck