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Carol
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3 Apr 2021 10:02 |
please can anyone help me when was james britton born 1776 -1786 he married elizabeth evans 1811 died when? richard withers born 1820? married sarah britton 1841 died 1901 in chelsea london
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ErikaH
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3 Apr 2021 10:09 |
Where was the 1811 marriage? Have you tried to find a death? The GRO site has age at death for the early post-1837 years
The fathers of the bride and groom will be named on the 1841 marriage cert - if they were known
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Carol
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3 Apr 2021 10:13 |
1811 marriage was bishopsgate london there are a few deaths 1839 1846 1852.
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ErikaH
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3 Apr 2021 10:34 |
Look at the GRO for age at death
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
Is he on any censuses?
What are you asking for in relation to the other couple?
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ErikaH
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3 Apr 2021 10:37 |
Name: Richard Withers Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 26 Jul 1841 Marriage Place: St Giles without Cripplegate, City of London, England Father: Richard Withers Spouse: Sarah Britton Father: James Britton.........................Occ Weaver Register Type: Parish Register
Presumably, you think that James was Sarah's father?
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ErikaH
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3 Apr 2021 10:41 |
1851
Name: Richd Withers Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Withers Gender: Male Where born: Chelsea Civil Parish: Chelsea County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration District: Chelsea Sub-registration District: Chelsea South ED, institution, or vessel: 08 Household Schedule Number: 182 Piece: 1472 Folio: 208 Page Number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Richd Withers 30 Sarah Withers 37........born Hertfordshire************************* John Withers 7 James Withers 5 Thomas Withers 1
1871
Name: Richard Withers Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: 1821 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Chelsea Middlesex England Civil parish: Chelsea Ecclesiastical parish: Old Church County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Chelsea Sub-registration district: Chelsea, South ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 34 Piece: 75 Folio: 8 Page number: 7 Household Members Age Relationship Richard Withers 50 Head Elizabeth Withers 40 Wife James Withers 25 Son John Whylow 15 Son-in-law Mary A Whylow 15 Daughter-in-law Frederick L Howard 43 Visitor
Name: Richard Withers..........widower Gender: Male Marriage Age: 48 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1821 Marriage Date: 12 Jul 1869 Marriage Place: St Jude, Chelsea, Kensington and Chelsea, England Father: Richard Withers Spouse: Elizabeth Whybro
1881
Name: Richard Withers Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relationship to Head: Head Gender: Male Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Chelsea County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 14 Manor Gard Marital status: Widower Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Butcher Registration District: Chelsea Sub registration district: Chelsea, South ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 76 Folio: 144 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Richard Withers 60 Jane Harding 26 Frederick Harding 27 John Whybro 25 Frederick Harding 5
Name: Richard Withers Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820 Registration Year: 1901 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 81 Registration District: Chelsea
1841
Name: Richard Wethers [Richard Withers] Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Chelsea Hundred: Ossulstone (Kensington Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration District: Kensington Sub-registration District: Chelsea North West Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 688 Book: 6 Folio: 33 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Richard Wethers 40 Elizabeth Wethers 32 Richard Wethers 20 Jane Wethers 14 Thomas Wethers 7 Joseph Wethers 1
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ErikaH
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3 Apr 2021 10:45 |
? Name: Sarah Brittain Gender: Female Baptism Date: 21 Sep 1817 Baptism Place: Royston,Hertford,England Father: James Brittain Mother: Anne
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ErikaH
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3 Apr 2021 10:49 |
BRITTON, JAMES 44 GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 144
BRITTON, JAMES 3 GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 189 BRITTON, JAMES 33 GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 163
None of the above tally with the birth year you suggest
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ArgyllGran
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3 Apr 2021 10:50 |
Richard Withers England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Richard Withers Event Type: Christening Event Date: 2 Jan 1822 Event Place: Chelsea, London, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Saint Luke, Chelsea, London, England Sex: Male Birth Date: 7 Mar 1821 Father's Name: Richard Withers Mother's Name: Elizabeth
GS Film Number: 585472 Digital Folder Number: 008041002 Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06705-3 System Origin: ODM
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ErikaH
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3 Apr 2021 10:51 |
Name: Elizabeth Evans Gender: Female Marriage Date: 26 Oct 1811 Marriage Place: St. Botolph Bishopsgate, London, England Spouse: James Britton
Name: James Britton Gender: Male Birth Date: 6 Jun 1814 Baptism Date: 24 Jun 1814 Baptism Place: Saint Leonards,Shoreditch,London,England Father: James Britton Mother: Elizabeth
Name: Sarah Ann Britton*****NOTE second forename and location Gender: Female Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 24 Jun 1814 Baptism Place: England, Shoreditch St Leonard, Hackney Father: James Britton Mother: Elizabeth Britton
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Carol
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3 Apr 2021 11:00 |
thank you everyone i will sort out what you gave me for now
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ArgyllGran
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3 Apr 2021 11:25 |
Christening of Richard Withers's brother Joseph, who is on the 1841 census posted above:
Joseph Whethers in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Joseph Whethers Gender: Male Birth Date: 4 Nov 1839 Baptism Date: 15 Dec 1839 Baptism Place: Saint Luke,Chelsea,London,England Father: Richard Whethers Mother: Elizabeth FHL Film Number: 585472, 585473
However, his birth doesn't appear to have been registered, so don't know mmn.
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alviegal
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3 Apr 2021 20:41 |
National Burial Index For England & Wales
First name(s) Sarah Last name Brittain Birth year 1817 Age 18 mths Death year 1819 Burial year 1819 Burial date 12 Feb 1819 Place Royston County Hertfordshire
Death for Sarah, daughter of James and Anne. James was a labourer. So not your Sarah.
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alviegal
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3 Apr 2021 20:50 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Manor Gardens North, Chelsea, London & Middlesex, England
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Richard Withers Head Married Male 30 1821 Dealer Chelsea, Middlesex, England Sarah Withers Wife Married Female 37 1814 Laundress >Chelsea, Middlesex, England< John Withers Son Unmarried Male 7 1844 - Chelsea, Middlesex, England James Withers Son Unmarried Male 5 1846 School Chelsea, Middlesex, England Thomas Withers Son Unmarried Male 1 1850 Home Chelsea, Middlesex, England
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
3, Manor Gardens, Chelsea, London & Middlesex, England
Richard Withers Head Married Male 40 1821 General Dealer Costermonger Chelsea, Middlesex, England Sarah Withers Wife Married Female 45 1816 - >Ware, Hertfordshire, England< John Withers Son Unmarried Male 17 1844 Bricklayers Labourer Chelsea, Middlesex, England James D Withers Son Unmarried Male 15 1846 Plasterers Hawk Boy Chelsea, Middlesex, England William Withers Son - Male 11 1850 - Chelsea, Middlesex, England Jane Withers Daughter - Female 5 1856 - Chelsea, Middlesex, England
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alviegal
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3 Apr 2021 20:55 |
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
First name(s) Sarah Last name Withers Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1814 Age 53 Death quarter 3 Death year 1867 District Chelsea County London Volume 1A Page 143
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