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Minnie Tropin
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Minnie Tropin
Registration Year: 1902
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 888
Records on Page:
Name
Jacob Iskovitz
Minnie Tropin


The other two people on that marriage record married each other, per 1911 census:
Rachel Freedman
Isaac Goldstien [ Goldstein ]


I don't see Jacob and Minnie in 1911.

How old was the woman who married in 1954?

Maurice Greenman
in the England, United Grand Lodge of England Freemason Membership Registers, 1751-1921

Maurice Greenman
Gender: Male
Initiation Age: 29
Birth Year: abt 1874
Initiation Date: 19 Oct 1903
First Payment Year on Register: 1903
Year Range: 1887-1909
Profession: House Furnisher
Lodge: Lodge of Israel
Lodge Location: Liverpool
Lodge Number: 1502
Folio 53

Home address 491 Rice Lane

Got a birthplace here !

Maurice Greenman
in the UK, Naturalisation Certificates and Declarations, 1870-1916

Maurice Greenman
Gender: Male
Relationship: Self (Head)
Record Type: Certificate
Birth Date: abt 1874
Birth Place: Swinsk, Vitebsk
Residence Year: 1906
Residence Place: Walton, Liverpool, England
Father: Lazarus Greenman
Mother: Rose Greenman
Child: Lillie Greenman
Leslie Greenman

1911 census

Betsy Gensberg
[Betsy Greenman]
Age in 1911: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Russia
Civil Parish: Liverpool
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Country: England
Street Address: 34 Sun St
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Housework
Registration District Number: 453
Sub-registration District: Abercromby
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Piece: 22175
Household Members:
Name Age
Rose Greenman 62
Betsy Gensberg 40
Leslie Gensberg 4 grandson
Henry Wolfson 33 son in law


Ahhh
Fathers death

Lazarus Greenman
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 56
Registration District: Liverpool
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 65

Did she name her father on the marriage cert

Annie Greenman
Registration Year: 1910
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Liverpool
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 240
Records on Page:
Name
Annie Greenman
Henry Wolfson

Posting for surname in roughly the same area in case there is a connection ??

Marriages Mar 1901
Trupin Esther Rachel ..... W. Derby 8b 763

1901

Living at 27 Moon Street

Name: Minnie Trupin
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Cousin
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Russian Subj, Russia
Civil Parish: Liverpool
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Ecclesiastical parish: Liverpool St Silas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Registration District: Liverpool
Sub-registration District: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: 01

Piece: 3416
Folio: 17
Page Number: 25
Household Schedule Number: 147
Household Members:
Name Age
Rosa Greenman 56 <<<Grocery shopkeeper... Widow
Annie Greenman 18
Minnie Trupin 19 <<< Tailoress

Interestingly, there are several households with different surnames of Russian-born people in the same street

All I have is this name as "mother" on one daughter's American marriage record in 1954. "Father" is Eliezer (Leslie) Greenman. The Greenmans lived after immigration in Liverpool. In the 1901 Census, Rosa Greenman Russia, aged 56 widow, is the "mother" I am looking for as Rena (she used a variety of first names, Rosa, Reine, Rena.....) There is one clue in the mass of other family records I have,"Minnie Turpin, cousin, Russia,19" in the 1901 Liverpool Census, which is probably Trupin on the written Census record. Please ignore all the other Minnie Turpins in Censuses. Trupin could also be Srupin, it's a Russian or Polish Jewish name.