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Caroline
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13 Mar 2021 08:35 |
I have found the rest of his family moved north to Cheshire around 1870. I have found all of them EXCEPT Herbert. I cant see if he died or anything else.
His family lived in Sheringham, Norfolk.
His father is Robert Johnson His mother is Elizabeth Woodhouse
On the 1881 census, the whole family except Herbert are living in Cavendish Street, Runcorn.
If anyone can shed some light, I would be mightily grateful Thanks
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LondonBelle
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13 Mar 2021 10:15 |
This 1881 Census might be worth investigating further?
Name: Herbert Johnson Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Emma Johnson Gender: Male Where born: Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Garston County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 2 Ottawa St Marital status: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Carter Registration District: West Derby ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3719 Folio: 77 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Herbert Johnson 27 b Norfolk Emma Johnson 25 b Commerburet (sic), Cheshire Elizabeth A. J. Johnson 4 b Garston William Hy. Johnson 2 b Garston
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ErikaH
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13 Mar 2021 10:27 |
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JOHNSON, ELIZABETH HANNAH JANE JOHNSON GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 621
JOHNSON, WILLIAM HENRY WILLIAMSON GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 376
Can't see any likely marriage, though
However..................
Name: Elizabeth Hannah Jane Johnson Baptism Date: 3 Sep 1876 Baptism Place: Garston, St Michael, Lancashire, England Father: Herbert Johnson Mother: Eunice Johnson Address 2, Ottaway Street, Garston
Name: William Henry Johnson Gender: Male Baptism Date: 6 Apr 1879 Baptism Place: St. Michael's Church, Garston, Lancashire, England Father: Herbert Johnson Mother: Ann FHL Film Number: 1545769 Reference ID: Pg 111 Ln 884
Name: William Henry Johnson Gender: Male Age: 21 Birth Year: abt 1878 Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 26 Nov 1899 Parish: Thornton-Le-Fylde, Lancashire, England Spouse: Lily White Spouse Age: 19 Father: Herbert Johnson Spouse Father: William White Witnesses Elizabeth Hannah Cooper and John James Cooper
Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%) Cooper John James Prescot 8b 1067 Johnson Elizabeth A J Prescot 8b 1067
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Maddie
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13 Mar 2021 10:28 |
that herberts marriage
Herbert Last name Johnson Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1879
Emma Piggott District Derby District number -
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ErikaH
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13 Mar 2021 10:34 |
The marriage is after the births of the two children
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Maddie
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13 Mar 2021 10:35 |
1901 Name: Euniel Johnson [Eunice Johnson] Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: Herbert Johnson Birth Place: Northwick, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Widnes Search Photos: Search for 'Widnes' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: St Ambrose Town: Widnes County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration District: Prescot Sub-registration District: Widnes ED, institution, or vessel: 09 Neighbors: Piece: 3513 Folio: 97 Page Number: 20 Household Schedule Number: 109 Household Members: Name Age Herbert Johnson 46 Euniel Johnson 44 Edith Johnson 11 Rhoda B Johnson 6 Patrick Burke 20
Name: Hebert Johnson quarryman Gender: Male Marriage Age: 22 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1852 Marriage Date: 5 Apr 1874 Marriage Place: Toxteth, St James, Lancashire, England Search Photos: Search for 'Toxteth, St James' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Robert Johnson -------------- Spouse: Ennice Griffice
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ErikaH
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13 Mar 2021 10:38 |
JOHNSON, RHODA BEATRICE JOHNSON GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 685
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ErikaH
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13 Mar 2021 10:41 |
Further complications..
Name: Hebert Johnson (Quarryman) Gender: Male Marriage Age: 22 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1852 Marriage Date: 5 Apr 1874 Marriage Place: Toxteth, St James, Lancashire, England Father: Robert Johnson - Ship Unloader Spouse: Ennice Griffice (Eunice Griffiths)
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Caroline
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13 Mar 2021 10:49 |
Goodness me! Thank you so much. I shall have to go through all my stuff to see which fits best...I am VERY grateful, thank you
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Maddie
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13 Mar 2021 10:50 |
Name: Eunice Johnson Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Registration Year: 1905 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 50 Registration District: Fylde Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 450
Name: Herbert Johnson Death Age: 75 Birth Date: abt 1854 Registration Date: Jul 1929 [Aug 1929] [Sep 1929] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Fylde Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 669
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LondonBelle
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13 Mar 2021 10:55 |
1891Census..family.has been transcribed as Danbavin. Herbert is not with Family but Eunice is listed as Wife not Widow
Name: William Hy Danbavin [William Hy Johnson] Gender: Male Age: 12 Relationship: Son Birth Year: 1879 Father: Birth Place: Garston, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Garston Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Residence Place: Garston, Lancashire, England Registration District: West Derby Sub registration district: Wavertree ED, Institution or Vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3004 Folio: 49 Household Members: Name Age Eunice Danbavin 35 b Northwich Elizabeth Danbavin 14 b Garston William Hy Danbavin 12 b Garston John C Danbavin 9 Garston Walter Danbavin 6 b Garston Edith Danbavin 1 b Garston
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Surname on Image is Johnson
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Maddie
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13 Mar 2021 11:06 |
maybe 1911 32 Heys St Thornton, Thornton, Lancashire, England amuel Didsbury Head - Male 71 1840 Old Age Pensioner Lancashire Pendlebury Sarah Ann Didsbury Wife - Female 63 1848 At Home Garston Lancashire William Didsbury Son Single Male 18 1893 Coal Heaver Fleetwood Lancashire Herbert Johnson Boarder Widower Male 57 1854 Chemical Labourer Lower Levenshulme Lancashire Edward Tibbin Boarder Widower Male 48 1863 Salt Drawer Northwich Cheshire William Lawson Boarder Single Male 29 1882 Salt Drawer Oswaldtwistle Lancashire Arthur Catlow Haworth Boarder Widower Male 49 1862 Chemical Labouer Oswaldtwistle Lancashire
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Maddie
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13 Mar 2021 11:19 |
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1891
bert Johnson Head Married Male 46 1855 Chemical Labourer Norwich, Norfolk, England Eunice Johnson Wife Married Female 44 1857 - Northwich, Cheshire, England Edith Johnson Daughter Single Female 11 1890 - Garston, Lancashire, England Rhoda B Johnson Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Widnes, Lancashire, England Patrick Burke Boarder Single Male 20 1881 Chemical Labourer Mold, Flintshire, Wales
33, Walmsley Street, Widnes, Prescot, Lancashire & Cheshire, England
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Maddie
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13 Mar 2021 12:11 |
baptisms
Elizabeth Hannah Jane Last name Johnson Gender Female Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1876 Baptism date 03 Sep 1876 Residence Garston, Lancashire, England Place Garston County Lancashire Country England Father's first name(s) Herbert Father's last name Johnson Mother's first name(s) Eunice
John Oliver Last name Johnson Birth year - Baptism year 1882 Baptism date 01 Jan 1882 Baptism place Garston, St Michael Denomination Church Of England Diocese Liverpool Residence Otway St, Garston Father's first name(s) Herbert Father's occupation Labourer Mother's first name(s) Eunice
Rhoda Beatrice Last name Johnson Birth date 03 Mar 1895 Baptism year 1895 Baptism date 12 May 1895 Residence 24 Beaumont ST Diocese Liverpool Place Widnes, St Mary County Cheshire Country England Father's first name(s) Herbert Father's last name Johnson Mother's first name(s) Eunice Father's occupation Labourer
Walter Last name Johnson Birth year - Baptism year 1884 Baptism date 03 Aug 1884 Baptism place Garston, St Michael Denomination Church Of England Diocese Liverpool Residence 14 Raglan ST Father's first name(s) Herbert Father's occupation Labourer Mother's first name(s) Eunice
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Caroline
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14 Mar 2021 10:33 |
heavens above! thats a LOT of info to wade through and try to make headway on, thank you very very much. Have a great day :-D
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17 Mar 2021 09:09 |
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: JOHNSON, HERBERT WOODHOUSE GRO Reference: 1853 S Quarter in ERPINGHAM Volume 04B Page 51
Marriages Mar 1852 (>99%) Johnson Robert Erpingham 4b 119 Woodhouse Elizabeth Erpingham 4b 119 etc.
Norfolk BTs [with image] https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NF9S-YMF
Orig image of marr rego https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68J4-FNB?i=60&wc=4JN4-6TS%3A30186901%2C29373001%2C29440601&cc=1416598
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