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Teresa
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12 Mar 2021 17:14 |
WOW MORE INFORMATION, THANK-YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE.
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Maddie
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11 Mar 2021 12:22 |
baptism Anne Elizabeth Last name Grosvenor Birth year 1868 Birth date 07 May 1868 Baptism year 1868 Baptism date 05 Aug 1868 Father's first name(s) Richard Father's last name Grosvenor Mother's first name(s) Maria Mother's last name Grosvenor Baptism place Mansfield Church St John the Evangelist Denomination Anglican Residence Rookery County Nottinghamshire Country England
1881 11, Railway Side, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England Ann Haugh Head Widow Female 62 1819 Shop Keeper (Provision) Tunstall, Staffordshire, England Ann Haugh Daughter Single Female 30 1851 Cotton Factory Hand Hartshorne, Leicestershire, England Annie E Grovenor Grand Daughter Single Female 12 1869 - Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England Bridget Flancy Boarder Single Female 22 1859 Cotton Factory Hand Ireland
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ErikaH
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11 Mar 2021 11:18 |
OSBORNE, LAWSON (MMN) GROSVENOR GRO Reference: 1892 J Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 59
Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%) Grosvenor Annie Elizabeth Mansfield 7b 102 Osborne Harry Mansfield 7b 102
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ErikaH
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11 Mar 2021 11:16 |
1881
Name: Willis Osborne Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relationship to Head: Son Father: William Osborne Mother: Martha Osborne Gender: Male Where born: Mansfield Civil Parish: Mansfield County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address: 7 Ratcliffe Gate Occupation: Scholar Registration District: Mansfield ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3318 Folio: 83 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age William Osborne 36 Martha Osborne 38 Fred Osborne 14 Harry Osborne 12********************************** Ted. Osborne 9 Ada Osborne 8 Willis Osborne 6 Kate Osborne 4 Polly Osborne 2 Alfred Dutton 22 Samuel Northage 26 George Turner 22 John Savage 28
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ArgyllGran
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11 Mar 2021 11:11 |
Harry was a brother of Willis senior;
Harry Osborne in the 1881 England Census Name: Harry Osborne Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relationship to Head: Son Father: William Osborne Mother: Martha Osborne Gender: Male Where born: Mansfield Civil Parish: Mansfield County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address: 7 Ratcliffe Gate Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration District: Mansfield ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: Piece: 3318 Folio: 83 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age William Osborne 36 Martha Osborne 38 Fred Osborne 14 Harry Osborne 12 <<<<<<<<<<<<< Ted. Osborne 9 Ada Osborne 8 Willis Osborne 6 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Kate Osborne 4 Polly Osborne 2 Alfred Dutton 22 Samuel Northage 26 George Turner 22 John Savage 28
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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11 Mar 2021 11:08 |
Ahh that 1911 census didn’t come up for me
One came up but with smedley parents
I hadn’t calculated the age of the child that died as I have to keep switching to look at records on my iPad and can only look at one website at a time
Didn’t see the burial either !
So being with the Osbornes it looks like the Smedley marriage had fallen apart quite soon !
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ArgyllGran
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11 Mar 2021 11:05 |
Doris in 1911:
Doris Smedley in the 1911 England Census Name: Doris Smedley Age in 1911: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906 Relation to Head: Adopted Daughter <<<<<<<<<<< Gender: Female Birth Place: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Sheffield Country: England Street Address: 18 Bowden Rd Darnall Sheffield Marital status: Single Registration District Number: 510 Sub-registration District: Attercliffe ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Piece: 28012 Household Members: Name Age Harry Osborne 42 Annie Elizabeth Osborne 42 Harold Osborne 23 Lawson Osborne 19 Bernard Osborne 16 Doris Smedley 5
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ErikaH
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11 Mar 2021 10:56 |
I would concur with that - the child born AMJ 1905 would have been one year old in JAS 1906
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greyghost
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11 Mar 2021 10:43 |
A Doris Smedley who died at only 3 hours old was buried in Nottingham General Cemetery on 14th August 1906 so that was probably this birth -
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: SMEDLEY, DORIS DRAPER GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 349
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Teresa
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11 Mar 2021 10:20 |
ErikaH, ArgyllGran and Shirley, very grateful for the further information.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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11 Mar 2021 08:34 |
There was a daughter
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: SMEDLEY, DORIS MAY GROSVENOR GRO Reference: 1905 J Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 148 They don’t have her with them in 1911 or state they had one child who died
Edit Looks like she died as a baby
Name: Age at Death (in years): SMEDLEY, DORIS 0 GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 183
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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11 Mar 2021 08:32 |
Living with married brother in 1901 View 1901 England Census Name: Joseph Smedley Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation to Head: Brother Gender: Male Birth Place: Kirkby in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Stapleford Search Photos: Search for 'Stapleford' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Stapleford St Helen County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:Nottingham Road
Occupation:moulder
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration District: Shardlow Sub-registration District: Stapleford ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3211 Folio: 106 Page Number: 24 Household Schedule Number: 145 Household Members: Name Age William Smedley 28 Annie Smedley 30 George Smedley 16 Joseph Smedley 15 Ernest Smedley 13
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ArgyllGran
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10 Mar 2021 19:50 |
Aha! Thanks for the clue, ErikaH!
GROVESNOR, LILY mmn HOUGH GRO Reference: 1885 J Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 91
Some weird mis-spelling on GRO, though spelled properly on FreeBMD, and on the index image. GRO also doesn't recognise Grovesnor as a "phonetically similar" version of Grosvenor - or of anything else. But it does think that Garner and Grovenor are phonetically similar to Grovesnor.
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ErikaH
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10 Mar 2021 18:47 |
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Name: Lily Grovener Gender: Female Age: 6 Relationship: Daughter Birth Year: 1885 Father: Richard Grovener Mother: Maria Grovener Birth Place: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Mansfield Ecclesiastical parish: St John Residence Place: Mansfield, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England Registration District: Mansfield Sub registration district: Mansfield ED, Institution or Vessel: 6a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2655 Folio: 118 Household Members: Name Age Richard Grovener 50 Maria Grovener 47 Eliza Ann Grovener 20 William Grovener 18 Isaac Grovener 16 Frank Grovener 15 Herbert Grovener 13 Maria Grovener 8 Lily Grovener 6
GROVENOR, ISAAC (MMN) HOUGH GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 92
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Teresa
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10 Mar 2021 17:32 |
ArgyllGran, so much going through my head at the moment with all this!! I'm sure I'll get my head round it soon. ErikaH. Warsop is the place where the Osborne's were and still are. Thanks again everyone
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ArgyllGran
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10 Mar 2021 17:25 |
Births Jun 1885 (>99%) Grosvenor Lily Mansfield 7b 91
Lily's birth doesn't seem to come up on GRO site, so I don't know what her mother's name was. Not that you've asked about that! Maybe you know it already.
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ErikaH
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10 Mar 2021 17:20 |
He married as Smedley
Name: George W Smedley Registration Date: Apr 1935 [May 1935] [Jun 1935] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration District: Mansfield Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Spouse: Dorothy Key
1939 7 Titchfield Street, Market Warsop, Warsop U.D., Nottinghamshire, England George Osborne 07 Jan 1911 Male Colliery Surface Worker Screen Heavy Worker Married 302 1 Dorothy Osborne 25 Dec 1911 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 302 2 1 closed record
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Maddie
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10 Mar 2021 17:19 |
We've found the following potential record matches for the same person in other record sets George William Osbourne Civil Deaths & Burials Record Dorset, England Year of death: 1972
1939 Kenways Newlyn Way, Poole, Poole M.B., Dorset, England Osbourne household (2 people) First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number George W Osbourne 31 Dec 1910 Male Gardener Married 77 1 Dorothy (F) Osbourne 21 Jul 1909 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 77 2
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Teresa
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10 Mar 2021 16:58 |
Thank-you ErikaH for this extra info. One more thing, wondered if I could get the 1939 register for George William Osborne who was Lily's other son, he was born in 1911 and married Dorothy Key in June 1935. Thank-you
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Maddie
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10 Mar 2021 16:54 |
Lily Last name Osbourne Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1966 Registration month -
Thomas E Harrison Spouse's last name Harrison District Mansfield District number - County Nottinghamshire Country England
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