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BTW, I see that you have in your GR tree a Douglas Caleb Wyatt born 1907 - what connection does he have?

That may be wrong info of Douglas calab sorry. I don't know where to start now with the info given lol. Was wondering if my grandads parents had other children after him?

No, not together

Look at the info provided on here, and check births on freebmd

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Does it give an address or age for Florence Emma Blake?

Birth certs don't give parents' ages. The address on the cert would be that at which the birth occurred, plus the address of the informant, if that was different

Address West hylands Cuckfield I trying to read but messy lol

"It [ the workhouse ] became the Cuckfield Poor Law Institution at the end of the first world war and then in 1930 became the West Hylands Institution as it was built on the western part of the Highlands Estate. The main work of the Institution was the care of acute and chronic sick, the elderly ambulant infirm, mentally subnormal and “casuals”.

http://cuckfieldcompendium.co.uk/workhouse/



"During the '30s the number of vagrants dwindled and West Hylands was upgraded and was now able to care for acutely ill medical cases as well as maternity, children and infectious diseases."
https://www.cuckfieldconnections.org.uk/post/150-years-of-the-cuckfield-hospital-site

Hayward* Heat Petty Sessio on Monda to have been h nagged by her ns husband and elder son over sher.ag of rations. Mrs. Laura Wyatt, wife of • h-ad cowman. pleaded guilty to eteadne Zbe. sugar, }:b. tea. biscuits and • packet of caramel mould, the property
06 May 1948 - West Sussex Gazette - Arundel, Sussex, England

any connection ?

Hmm interesting. Is there any info on who the Carpenter family are then who Douglas lived with other than what is already mentioned?

Can you tell me who parents are to Florence E blake plz

Some possibilities for the birth of Florence -
BUT as we don't know her age when Douglas was born, or where she came from, so we can only guess:

BLAKE, FLORENCE EMMA mmn KINCH
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Volume 02B Page 450

BLAKE, FLORENCE EMMA mmn ELLIOTT
GRO Reference: 1908 S Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Volume 02B Page 401

But there are a number of Florence E Blakes too, in various places 1912-16, and we don't know their middle names.

Thank you.. on the birth certificate it's looking like Florence Emma Wyatt married Douglas dad Douglas J wyatt.

No -
it's NOT looking like Florence married Douglas .

There is no record of such a marriage in England, Wlaes, or Scotland, as we've already said.


They may perhaps have lived together unmarried - or perhaps they only had a short relationship, but Douglas was willing to be named as the father.

But Florence Emma wyatt is her name on the certificate?

So she lied........people do

No idea if this is your Douglas John but it seems to fit with the newspsper snippit posted by Kay???? Lindfield is about a mile from Haywards Heath I think.


BIGAMY CHARGE: STRANGE STORY A strange story was told to the Brighton Bench when Douglas J Wyatt (37). Cockhaise Cottages Lindfield was charged with bigamously marrying Freda Grace Elphick, Park View, Hurstmonceux at Brighton on Dec 9. The legal wife said she left her husband on Dec 9 and took up work as a housekeeper because she could not carry on farming work. Her husband could not trace her and he went through a form of marriage with another woman in order to induce witness to disclose her address. She returned to live with her husband on Jan 26 and they were very happy.
Freda Elphick said she met accused through a matrimonial agency. He described himself as a widower. Wyatt was alleged to have said that, because he failed to trace his wife, he decided that the only thing he could was to marry again, to 'bring her out.'
He was committed for trial at Sussex Assizes.
30 May 1946 - West Sussex Gazette - Arundel, Sussex, England


Marriages Dec 1945 (>99%)
Elphick Freda G John Wyatt Brighton 2b 578


Kay's story has them living at Treemans Cottages, Lewes Rd.
It says 'Mrs Wyatt , who had a serious mental breakdown, was continually nagged by her husband and elder son, who complained that the rations in the house were not sufficient.'
West Sussex Gazette 06 May 1948

Elphick
Freda G
1913

England & Wales Births 1837-2006

Hailsham, Sussex, England
.
Elphick
Freda G
1945

England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Brighton, Sussex, England

Elphick
Freda Grace

1913

2006


England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

Eastbourne, Sussex, England

An update on the bigamous marriage.

A lawful wife and a bigamous wife- said to be 'the Cuckoo in the Nest' - slept together in one room while the husband slept in another, the Judge was told at Sussex Assizes yesterday.
Asked whether the two women got on well together, counsel answered "They survived the night."
Douglas John Wyatt, head herdsman of Lindfield, Sussex was sentenced to nine months imprisonment for bigamously marrying Freda Grace Elphick.
It was stated that the lawful marriage took place in 1933 and that in Nov 1945, Wyatt's wife left him, as she was fed up with farm work.
Wyatt tried to trace her then got the idea of going through a bigamous marriage to enable him to find his proper wife. Through a matrimonial agency, he met Miss Elphick whom he married in Dec 1945 telling her he was a widower.
After one night he left her. Hearing of the bigamous marriage, the lawful wife wrote to Wyatt's mother, disclosing her address.
Wyatt bought this letter for £1, went to see his lawful wife, and they stayed together.
Wyatt introduced the two women to each other, and the lawful wife then left Wyatt, who reassured Miss Elphick that they were legally married.
The lawful wife sent Wyatt some cigarettes, and Wyatt again asked her to return.
THE JUDGE: WAS IT THE CIGARETTES? Mr A Harmsworth (prosecuting) : It might have been. It was a packet of 20
Later Miss Elphick decided to leave and Wyatt was reconciled to his wife, with whom he became on the best of terms.
13 July 1946 - Daily Mirror - London, London, England

1933 - that's the marriage I posted on 10 March at 09:55:

Marriages Mar 1933 (>99%)
Standing Laura E Wyatt Brighton 2b 358
Wyatt Douglas J Standing Brighton 2b 358

In 1939 they're together in Petersfield, as already posted.

But doesn't help with Florence Blake, unfortunately.
She clearly predates Laura in Douglas's affections.

Just read this, little confusing. So what would this mean, is it possible Florence isn't her real name same as lying of her marriage? What could I search more on now? Is her name even Florence? Iv come across a Laura wyatt in searches.

Remember, apparently Douglas mcdonald wyatt mum Blake had left him at dr barnardos, so could explain with the mental health of blake??