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ArgyllGran

Thank you so much. Think the Bromley death is a good potential and I will get that cert ordered and see how I get on.

Nicki

??? another long shot -

Ellen Elizabeth Page
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: Ellen Elizabeth Page
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 10 Jan 1883
Baptism Place: England, Battersea St Paul, Wandsworth
Father: Samuel Page
Mother: Mary Ann Page
Register Type: Parish Registers


PAGE, ELLEN ELIZABETH mmn TURNER
GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 682



EDIT:

NO - not that birth - probably relates to death below:

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Ellen Elizabeth Page
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ellen Elizabeth Page
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 3
Registration District: Fulham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 223

There's no Ellen with Samuel (Saul) and wife Mary Ann (nee Turner) in 1881.

Long shot:

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Ellen Elizabeth O'Gorman
in the UK and Ireland, Find a Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Name: Ellen Elizabeth O'Gorman
Birth Date: 1884
Death Date: 1966
Cemetery: Bexleyheath Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Bexleyheath, London Borough of Bexley, Greater London, England


Deaths Mar 1966 (>99%)
O'GORMAN ELLEN E 82 BROMLEY 5A 430

Ellen's age at marriage: [EDIT: Oops, I see you know that already.]

Ellen Elizabeth Page
in the India, Select Marriages, 1792-1948
Name: Ellen Elizabeth Page
Gender: Female
Age: 19
Birth Date: 1883
Marriage Date: 26 Jul 1902
Marriage Place: Poona, Bombay, India
Spouse: Charles O'Gorman
FHL Film Number: 523889

Thank you all for your help in trying to locate Charles and Ellen and for all the info on Ellen's family

Nicki

Be aware that the name is also transcribed O'Gorman. Still haven't found anything on Charles oe Ellen though.

British India Office Marriages

First name(s) Charles
Last name O Gorman
Marriage year 1902
Marriage date 26 Jul 1902
Spouse's first name Ellen Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Page
Place Poona
Presidency Bombay
Groom's age 24
Bride's age 19
Groom's father's first name Andrew
Groom's father's last name O Gorman

Name: Samuel Merrill Page
Gender: Male
Initiation Date: 11 Jul 1912
First Payment Year on Register: 1912
Year Range: 1910-1921
Profession: Mill Assistant
Lodge: Research Lodge
Lodge Location: Bombay
Lodge Number: 3184
Folio Number: 214

Name: Samuel Merrill Page
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: West Ham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 269
Records on Page:
Name
Eva Grace Fergusson

Name: Samuel Merrill Page
Gender: Male
Initiation Age: 31
Birth Year: abt 1880
Initiation Date: 28 Apr 1911
First Payment Year on Register: 1911
Year Range: 1910-1921
Profession: Engineer
Lodge: Marine Lodge
Lodge Location: Calcutta
Lodge Number: 232
Folio Number: 105

Name: Mrs Eva G Page
Gender: Female
Age: 43
Birth Date: abt 1876
Departure Date: 26 Dec 1919
Port of Departure: Plymouth, England
Destination Port: Bombay, India
Ship Name: City of York
plus 2 children

Eva Grace
Last name Page
Birth year 1877
Death date 19 Dec 1921
Death year 1921
Age 44
Burial date 19 Dec 1921
Place Sewree
Presidency Bombay
Archive
The British Library
Archive Reference N-3-126
Folio -
Page 333

Name
Alexander Fraser Page
Gender
Male
Initiation Date
1 May 1915
First Payment Year on Register
1915
Year range
1910-1921
Profession
Oil Coy
Lodge
Tyrrell Leith Lodge
Lodge Location
Baroda Bombay
Lodge Number
2162
Folio Number
117
Household Members

British India Office Wills & Probate

First name(s) Samuel Merril
Last name Page
Event year 1939
Presidency Bombay
Death year 1939
Death date 19 Mar 1939
Place Bombay
Record type Administration
Archive reference L-AG-34-29-383-B
Page/folio number 361
Catalogue description Probates & Administrations - All India vol 1

Late a retired engineer of Bombay European inhabitant a widower died at St George's Hospital, Bombay. Alexander Fraser Page, brother of the deceased and the duly constituted attorney of Samuel Kenneth Page and Malcolm James Merril Page the sons of the said deceased.

I just wonder if Samuel was Ellen's father but wasn't mentioned on the MC as he had died.

Still looking for Charles and Ellen with not much luck :-(

Alviegal

Thank you so much.

i am bemused that I can't find anything on Charles and Ellen Gorman

Nicki

???

British India Office Deaths & Burials

First name(s) Samuel Kelly
Last name Page
Birth year 1841
Death date 08 Sep 1892
Death year 1892
Age 51Y 5D
Burial date 08 Sep 1892
Place Sewree
Presidency Bombay
Archive
The British Library
Archive Reference N-3-68
Folio -
Page 199


British India Office Births & Baptisms

First name(s) Samuel Kelly Pharoah
Last name Page
Birth year 1841
Birth date 03 Sep 1841
Baptism year 1841
Baptism date 5 Jan 1842
Place Masulipatam
Presidency Madras
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Page, Qtr Master Serjeant Nizs ? Service
Mother's first name(s) Emily
Mother's last name -
Archive reference N-2-21
Folio 2



British India Office Marriages

First name(s) John
Last name Page
Marriage year 1837
Marriage date 5 Sep 1837
Spouse's first name Emily
Spouse's last name Kelly
Place Secunderabad
Presidency Madras



India, Select Marriages, 1792-1948

Name: Samuel Page
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Age: 29
Birth Date: 1840
Marriage Date: 2 Nov 1869
Marriage Place: Bombay, Bombay, India
Father: John Page
Spouse: Ellen Clara Brewin
Age: 16
Birth Date: 1853
Father: Walter Brewin
FHL Film Number: 523928

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Name: Alexander Fraser Page
Age: 75
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1885
Death Date: abt 1960
Burial Date: 29 Jul 1960
Burial Place: Barnet, London, London, England
Interment Number: 6047

British India Office Marriages

First name(s) Harlan
Last name Page
Marriage year 1908
Marriage date 30 Dec 1908
Spouse's first name Hilda Davis
Spouse's last name Thorley
Place Bombay
Presidency -
Groom's father's first name Samuel P H (should be K not H)
Groom's father's last name Page
Bride's father's first name William
Bride's father's last name Thorley

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Thanks again ErikaH - I have both Ancestry and Findmypast but don't always manage to find what others with wider experience can find.

Nicki

Ancestry trees are not to be trusted, unless they show documentary PROOF

Name:
Ruth Hilda Page
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 9 May 1910
Event Place: Bombay Presidency, India
Event Place (Original): Sewri, Bombay, India
Sex: Female
Age: 0
Death Date: 8 May 1910
Father's Name: Harlan Page

The above is on familysearch - FREE

as is..........................

Name: Hilda Davy Page
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 28 Oct 1945
Event Place: Bombay Presidency, India
Event Place (Original): Sewri, Bombay, India
Sex: Female
Age: 67
Marital Status: Widowed
Birth Year (Estimated): 1878
Death Date: 26 Oct 1945
Spouse's Name: Harlan Page
Spouse's Sex: Male

Thanks ErikaH, I found a tree on Ancestry that mentions Hannah and Alexander but looking at it Ellen and Harlan are not listed.

Nicki

There is no father's name for Ellen Page on the marriage record, although the groom's father is named