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JAMES JOHNSON B1832 BEESTON REGIS, NORFOLK

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Caroline

Caroline Report 11 Feb 2021 16:43

Oooh...I wonder if this is him. Would be amazing if it is, so many questions: what is he doing in London? did he survive? Did he stay in London?

Coincidence is that a member of family on mums side died here around the same time!

Thank you for taking the time, I really appreciate it.
Stay safe
Caroline

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Feb 2021 12:56

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England, Dreadnought Seamen's Hospital Admissions and Discharges, 1826-1930

Name: James Johnson
Admission Age: 23
Birth Date: abt 1832
Birth Place: Sheringham
Admission Date: 19 Jul 1855
Admission Place: London, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Feb 2021 12:48

Not that marriage.

In 1851 your James's father Thomas was a pauper, formerly fish hawker.
The father of the man who married Sarah Ann Gaze/Gage was a gardener.

A couple of children of that marriage:

JOHNSON, EMMA GAZE
GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in TUNSTEAD & HAPPING Volume 04B Page 35

JOHNSON, HANNAH GAZE
GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in TUNSTEAD Volume 04B Page 38

This is that family in 1861 - therefore not your James:

James Johnson
in the 1861 England Census
Name: James Johnson
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: 1827 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann Johnson
Gender: Male
Where born: Catfield, Norfolk, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Catfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Catfield
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: Tunstead
Sub-registration District: Ludham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 33
Piece: 1197
Folio: 50
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
James Johnson 34
Sarah Ann Johnson 27
Hannah Johnson 6
Emma Johnson 3
Walter Johnson 1

safc

safc Report 11 Feb 2021 01:01

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Marriage entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Norfolk
Place (Links to more information) Stalham
Church name (Links to more information) St Mary
Register entry number 53
Marriage date 27 Apr 1854
Groom forename James
Groom surname JOHNSON
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom occupation Labourer
Groom abode Stalham
Bride forename Sarah Ann
Bride surname GAZE
Bride condition Spinster
Bride abode Stalham
Groom father forename Thomas
Groom father surname JOHNSON
Groom father occupation Labourer
Bride father forename John
Bride father surname GAZE
Bride father occupation Gardener
Witness1 Clare? CULLEY
Witness2 Mary Elizth. GAZE
Notes Both Of Full Age; He Signs X; Witness 1 Signs X
Transcribed by Sally Ann Bennett
File line number 143

Caroline

Caroline Report 11 Feb 2021 00:43

Great minds think alike! Isn’t this odd, I posted then rechecked census and found 1851 where he is aged 19 living at home and working as an labourer.

Thank you for taking the time. 2 pieces of evidence are REALLY helpful.

Now I need to find what he did after 1851....

Thanks again and stay safe
Caroline

safc

safc Report 11 Feb 2021 00:42

Record Transcription:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Sheringham, Erpingham, Norfolk, England
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James Johnson
Census Record
Norfolk, England
Year of census: 1841
Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Johnson Head Married Male 55 1796 Cauper Formely Fish Hawker Sheringham, Norfolk, England
Ann Johnson Wife Married Female 56 1795 - Dorking, Norfolk, England
Robert Johnson Son Unmarried Male 20 1831 Ag Lab Beeston Regis, Norfolk, England
James Johnson Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 Ag Lab Beeston Regis, Norfolk, England
Hannah Johnson Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1834 Net Maker Beeston Regis, Norfolk, England
Edward Johnson Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 Work On Twine Ground Sheringham, Norfolk, England

edward should be edmond

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safc

safc Report 11 Feb 2021 00:37

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Record Transcription:
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Sherringham, Sheringham, Erpingham, Norfolk, England

Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Ann Johnson Female 45 1796 Norfolk, England
Robert Johnson Male 10 1831 Norfolk, England
James Johnson Male 8 1833 Norfolk, England
Hannah Johnson Female 7 1834 Norfolk, England
Edward Johnson Male 1 1840 Norfolk, England

Caroline

Caroline Report 11 Feb 2021 00:01

Would anyone be able to help please? I have managed to find a lot of ancestors, yay me, but am struggling with this one.

I have found his birth & baptism, I have both parents and siblings. What I can’t find is ANYTHING after his baptism.

James father is called Thomas b1797, mother is Ann Sarsby & almost all his ancestors and male relations are agricultural labourers and fish sellers. Most are illiterate using an X on marriage.

His siblings are Robert b1830, then James b1832, Hannah b1834 & Edmond b1840. Eldest 2 are born in Beeston Regis, younger 2 are born in Sheringham.

James father was previously married to Mary Maria Parsons and had 3 daughters who are Mary Ann b1820, Harriet b1823 & Sarah Ann b1825.

James is the REAL enigma...born and then disappeared. I have tried censuses, parish records, civil records. I’ve tried searching for marriages and burials but I can’t find anything that makes me feel I am on the right track.

Everyone from 1830 back to 1500 is born, bred and died in west and north Norfolk.

Hope that’s enough info, sorry if it’s too much. Fingers crossed. Hope everyone is staying safe.
Thanks
Caroline