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Marian

Marian Report 27 Feb 2021 18:16

Robert Charles Swanson born 1875 Seaton Carew Co Durham parents William and Sarah. Robert marries Frances Mary Godwin on 30 August 1909 Durban, Natal, South Africa both full age, by licence. Robert is a civil servant. Frances is born 1870. On the 1911 census they are in England at Selling, Faversham Kent. Robert a civil servant and it says Nth Rhodessia for industry and they are visitors and for number in family it says 5. This is off family search. It has Robert born Leaston Crawe but as above this should be Seaton Carew. Could someone take a look at the census on Ancestry or FMP to see who they are staying with. They have one daughter Mary Ward Swanson who marries Charles Deane Cowper 1948. Mary born 1910 according to her death record. I cannot find a birth for Mary so suspect she may have been born abroad. On FMP for 1922 there is a Robert Charles Swanson going to Kingston, Jamaica - could someone also take a look at this entry. Thank you. PS I don't need any further details (yet) apart from my request above. Thanks

Marian

Marian Report 4 Feb 2021 16:47

Thanks Maddie, just been looking at probate for John Moor, he was a chief engineer and married to Jessie.

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Feb 2021 16:24

John George Swanson --- find grave
Birth unknown
Death 10 Apr 1897
Burial
Preston Cemetery
North Shields, Metropolitan Borough of North Tyneside, Tyne and Wear, England
Memorial ID 162018347 · View Source

Name: John George Swanson
Gender: Male
Age: 36
Birth Date: 1829
Marriage Date: 18 Oct 1865
Marriage Place: Christ Church, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England
Father:
William Cole Swanson
Spouse:
Isabella Moor
FHL Film Number: 1068933

Name: John G. Swanson
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Isabella Swanson
Gender: Male
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Tynemouth
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street Address: 29 Front St
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Coal Marchent
Registration District: Tynemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Piece: 5082
Folio: 71
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
John G. Swanson 52
Isabella Swanson 51
John Wood Swanson 14 -- no john moor
Jane Ann Swanson 12
Alice Boyd 18

Name: Isabella Swanson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 82
Registration District: Tynemouth

Name: John Moor Swanson
Death Date: 8 Sep 1916
Death Place: Northumberland, England
Probate Date: 19 Feb 1917
Probate Registry: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
died at sea

John Moor
Last name Swanson
Birth year 1867
Birth date -
Service number -
Rank 1st Engineer
Year 1914-18
Death year 1916
Death date 08 Sep 1916
Corps Mercantile Marine, Ss Elswick Park
Service Other Empire Force
Stories -
Links
John Moor:1911 Census
Source
View the Source record
Copyright -
User facts
Place of Birth : United Kingdom Tynemouth
Nature of Death : Civilian war death Supposed drowned in missin ship, SS Elswick Park.
Father : John George Swanson
Gender : Male
Addresses : Percy Street, Cullercoats, Tynemouth United Kingdom
Age On : 4
Addresses : 9 Station Road, Cullercoats, Tynemouth United Kingdom Their own
Age On : 49
First names : John Moor
Mother : Isabella Swanson nee Moor
Country Great Britain
Record set Lives Of The First World War 1914-1918

Marian

Marian Report 4 Feb 2021 16:12

Yes that is Robert, he married Marian Harrison although on family search it says Maria.

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Feb 2021 16:04

Name: Robert Ward Swanson
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 23 Feb 1826
Baptism Date: 22 Mar 1826
Baptism Place: Saint Nicholas Acons,London,London,England
Father:
William Swanson
Mother:
Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 535723

Name: Maria Swanson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 84
Registration District: Darlington
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Durham

alviegal

alviegal Report 4 Feb 2021 16:03

Is this Robert?

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Commercial Street, Darlington, Durham, England

John Harrison Head M Male 52 1799 Retired Coach Builder Darlington, Durham, England
Thomasin Harrison Wife M Female 57 1794 - Durham, England
Dorothy Ann Harrison Daughter U Female 25 1826 - Darlington, Durham, England
Thomasin Jane Harrison Daughter U Female 13 1838 Scholar Darlington, Durham, England
>>Robert Swanson Son In Law M Male 25 1826 Timber Merchant London, Middlesex, England
Marian Swanson Wife M Female 24 1827 Timber Merchant's Wife Darlington, Durham, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Feb 2021 15:48

William
Last name Swanson
Gender Male
Birth year 1827
Birth place -
Baptism year 1827
Baptism date 13 Jun 1827
Place -
County London
Country England
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Swanson
Mother's first name(s) Ann Elizabeth
Mother's last name -


a maybe

William
Last name Swanson
Age 40
Birth year 1792
Death year 1832
Burial year 1832
Burial date 25 Oct 1832
Church Holy Trinity
Denomination Anglican
Place Sunderland
County Durham

alviegal

alviegal Report 4 Feb 2021 15:42

Keep looking at this death but nothing to prove it is William. Seems strange his middle name is missing.

National Burial Index For England & Wales

First name(s) William
Last name Swanson
Age 40
Birth year 1792
Death year 1832
Burial year 1832
Burial date 25 Oct 1832
Church Holy Trinity
Denomination Anglican
Place Sunderland
County Durham

Marian

Marian Report 4 Feb 2021 15:42

Maddie, I wondered why I couldn't find John George baptism in London, didn't think of Gainford.

alviegal

alviegal Report 4 Feb 2021 15:39

Ann Elizabeth WARD
Born 12 Apr 1800 Gainford, Durham, England
Gender Female
Died 12 Apr 1835 Gainford, Durham, England
Person ID I17618 Ward Tree
Last Modified 21 Aug 2020

Father Robert WARD, b. 8 Nov 1756, Brompton by Northallerton, Yorkshire (North Riding), d. 29 Mar 1845, Gainford, Durham, England
Mother Jane BOAZMAN, b. 9 Oct 1772, Great Stainton, Durham, England Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 16 Mar 1852, Gainford, Durham, England
Married 15 May 1794 Great Stainton, Durham, England Find all individuals with events at this location

Family ID F6235 Group Sheet

Family William Cole SWANSON, d. Yes, date unknown
Family ID F6241 Group Sheet


https://ginsgenes.me/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I17618&tree=Ward1

Marian

Marian Report 4 Feb 2021 15:39

Thanks Maddie. Ann had a sister called Elizabeth so the witness of Eliza Ward may be her. Alvie, I think that the burial record you have found must be Ann Elizabeth as she was born/baptised April 1800 and especially as she is buried at Gainford. I wonder if William Cole also died before 1844 which is why Robert made provision for them. I'm very pleased that I'm on the right track.

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Feb 2021 15:32

??????
John George
Last name Swanson
Birth year 1831
Birth date ? ? 1831
Baptism year 1831
Baptism date 15 May 1831
Parish Gainford
Father's first name(s) William Cole
Mother's first name(s) Ann Elizabeth
Mother's last name Swanson
County Durham
Country England
Document type Parish Registers
Record set Durham Baptisms

John George
Last name Swanson
Name note -
Marriage year 1865
Marriage date 18 Oct 1865
Marriage place Tynemouth
Father's first name(s) William Cole
Father's last name Swanson
Spouse's first name(s) Isabella
Spouse's last name Moor
Spouse's age -
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
Spouse's father's last name Moor
County Northumberland

alviegal

alviegal Report 4 Feb 2021 15:20

National Burial Index For England & Wales

First name(s) Ann Elizabeth
Last name Swanson
Age 35
Birth year 1800
Death year 1835
Burial year 1835
Burial date 16 Mar 1835
Church St Mary
Denomination Anglican
Place Gainford
County Durham

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Feb 2021 15:16

he quuickly changed occupatipn to ships broker
Tenant: William Cole Swanson
First Year of Section: 1827
Civil Parish or Ward: Langbourn, England
Borough or County: City of London
Call Number: MS 11316/Vol.386

Tenant: William Cole Swanson
First Year of Section: 1828
Civil Parish or Ward: Farringdon Without, England
Borough or County: City of London
Call Number: MS 11316/Vol.389


nicholas lane

Marian

Marian Report 4 Feb 2021 15:15

Thanks Maddie. I think I'm clutching at straws on this one, trying to make a connection where there may not be one. Robert Ward of Gainford, Co Durham had a Will dated 6 April 1844. He leaves bequests to his son Robert Ward, his daughter Mary Margaret who marries John Brewer (I have Mary and John on a previous thread) his daughter Elizabeth Castell and his three grandsons Robert Swanston, William Swanston and John Swanston (note the t in the name). Neither of the boys have reached the age of 21 and there is no mention of their parents. I can't find them on the 1841 census but on all the following census returns they are in the north of England. Birth place Middlesex. William marries 1856 father William Cole Swanson and John marries 1865 father William Cole Swanson. Robert marries Maria(n) 1848. Can't find a burial/death for William or Ann either. I may be putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Feb 2021 15:00

Make a note that fathers’ names do not routinely appear on marriage records before July 1837

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Feb 2021 14:51

charlottemust have been his sister

parents marriage

Name: William Swanson
Gender: Male
Record Type: Banns (Bann)
Marriage Banns Date: 15 Nov 1787
Marriage Banns Place: St John, Clerkenwell, Islington, England
Spouse:
Charlotte Cale
Register Type: Parish Register
j swansom a witness

Marian

Marian Report 4 Feb 2021 14:28

Thanks both. Not sure about those witnesses.

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Feb 2021 14:25

William Coles
Last name Swanson
Gender Male
Birth year 1792
Birth place -
Baptism year 1792
Baptism date 15 Apr 1792
Place Finsbury
County London
Country England
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Swanson
Mother's first name(s) Charlotte

Charlotte
Last name Swanson
Gender Female
Birth year 1789
Birth place -
Baptism year 1789
Baptism date 18 Oct 1789
Place Finsbury
County London
Country England
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Swanson
Mother's first name(s) Charlotte
Mother's last name -

alviegal

alviegal Report 4 Feb 2021 14:22

Wm Tate, Charlotte Swanson, Eliza Ward and Geo Lilley were witnesses if any of those names help.