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Yes that is Robert, he married Marian Harrison although on family search it says Maria.

John George Swanson --- find grave
Birth unknown
Death 10 Apr 1897
Burial
Preston Cemetery
North Shields, Metropolitan Borough of North Tyneside, Tyne and Wear, England
Memorial ID 162018347 · View Source

Name: John George Swanson
Gender: Male
Age: 36
Birth Date: 1829
Marriage Date: 18 Oct 1865
Marriage Place: Christ Church, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England
Father:
William Cole Swanson
Spouse:
Isabella Moor
FHL Film Number: 1068933

Name: John G. Swanson
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Isabella Swanson
Gender: Male
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Tynemouth
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street Address: 29 Front St
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Coal Marchent
Registration District: Tynemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Piece: 5082
Folio: 71
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
John G. Swanson 52
Isabella Swanson 51
John Wood Swanson 14 -- no john moor
Jane Ann Swanson 12
Alice Boyd 18

Name: Isabella Swanson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 82
Registration District: Tynemouth

Name: John Moor Swanson
Death Date: 8 Sep 1916
Death Place: Northumberland, England
Probate Date: 19 Feb 1917
Probate Registry: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
died at sea

John Moor
Last name Swanson
Birth year 1867
Birth date -
Service number -
Rank 1st Engineer
Year 1914-18
Death year 1916
Death date 08 Sep 1916
Corps Mercantile Marine, Ss Elswick Park
Service Other Empire Force
Stories -
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John Moor:1911 Census
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Copyright -
User facts
Place of Birth : United Kingdom Tynemouth
Nature of Death : Civilian war death Supposed drowned in missin ship, SS Elswick Park.
Father : John George Swanson
Gender : Male
Addresses : Percy Street, Cullercoats, Tynemouth United Kingdom
Age On : 4
Addresses : 9 Station Road, Cullercoats, Tynemouth United Kingdom Their own
Age On : 49
First names : John Moor
Mother : Isabella Swanson nee Moor
Country Great Britain
Record set Lives Of The First World War 1914-1918

Thanks Maddie, just been looking at probate for John Moor, he was a chief engineer and married to Jessie.

Robert Charles Swanson born 1875 Seaton Carew Co Durham parents William and Sarah. Robert marries Frances Mary Godwin on 30 August 1909 Durban, Natal, South Africa both full age, by licence. Robert is a civil servant. Frances is born 1870. On the 1911 census they are in England at Selling, Faversham Kent. Robert a civil servant and it says Nth Rhodessia for industry and they are visitors and for number in family it says 5. This is off family search. It has Robert born Leaston Crawe but as above this should be Seaton Carew. Could someone take a look at the census on Ancestry or FMP to see who they are staying with. They have one daughter Mary Ward Swanson who marries Charles Deane Cowper 1948. Mary born 1910 according to her death record. I cannot find a birth for Mary so suspect she may have been born abroad. On FMP for 1922 there is a Robert Charles Swanson going to Kingston, Jamaica - could someone also take a look at this entry. Thank you. PS I don't need any further details (yet) apart from my request above. Thanks

The travel record is for CHARLES ROBERT, Lt Comdr RNR Rtd, age 47

Rtd = RETIRED

Ancesrty.

Charles Robert, aged 47,,
LKA, Cheriton Manor.Alresford Hants,
Proffesion----RNR Rly(Railway ?)


Gender: Male
Age: 47
Birth Date: abt 1875
Departure Date: 22 May 1922
Port of Departure: Bristol, England
Destination Port: Kingston, Jamaica
Ship Name: Camito
Search Ship Database: Search for the Camito in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Elders and Fyffes, Limited
Official Number: 137796
Master: J H Sendamore

The man is CHARLES ROBERT in 1911 as well !!!!!!!

Head of household is Harry Leney, Hop farmer

SORRY, my mistake but thank you both for looking.

The wife Frances is with him in 1911, but NO child, and none born in the 2 year marriage

He is a Civil Servant

1939 shows Mary W Swanson born 20 Nov 1911

Have you considered that Mary was adopted? Take into account the ages of the parents............

ge: 55
Birth Date: abt 1875
Port of Departure: South Africa
Arrival Date: 29 Dec 1930
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Natal; East London; Cape Town; Madeira; Algoa Bay
Ship Name: Arundel Castle
Shipping Line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 145175
Search Ship Database: Search for the Arundel Castle in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

this is Charles Robert Swanson coming to UK,as above ,1930.

Retired Civil Servant Retired,aged 55,
going to Tichborne Hampshire
came from Rhodesia.


Mrs C R Swanson
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 10 Dec 1910
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Durban [Natal]; East London; Port Elizabeth [Algoa Bay]; Mossel Bay and Cape Town
Ship Name: Armadale Castle
Shipping Line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 118350
Search Ship Database: Search for the Armadale Castle in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' databas.
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Travling together with Mr CR Swanson---a Civil Servant,,,,,no family.

Hello, Thank you Erika and Kay - I've sent for Frances Mary's will which usually comes within 5 days (only £1.50). Mary Ward Swanson was her sole beneficiary so that may reveal more. Didn't consider adoption. Frances brother was also in South Africa 1914.

You may already know that Mary was in the WRNS during WW2.

Miss Mary Ward Swanson
in the UK, Navy Lists, 1888-1970
Name: Miss Mary Ward Swanson
Year: 1942
Book Title: Navy List: October, 1942

Also listed in 1944-46.

Re the 1911 census,,,,

5 people in household,,

2 domestics,

the head,

and 2 visitors, the Swansns,,,,no children,

If the DOB given in 1939 is correct, Mary wasn't born until November 1911.

Master Swanson
Arrival Age: 1
Birth Date: abt 1912
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 22 Mar 1913
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: East London; Port Elizabeth [Algoa Bay]; Cape Town; Madeira
Ship Name: Walmer Castle
Shipping Line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 114839

Image actually says,"",MIss,Swanson,""-----mistranscibed,

travling with,
Mr CR Swanson -Civil Servant aged 39 and Mrs Swanson,aged 40.MIss Swanson aged,1

Marys birth would have been in SA and will possibly come under Consular records held at national archives uk,,she would get British Subject status from her father..

No birth or baptism on FMP. Is WARD a family name?

I assume Marian is trying (or perhaps has managed - I've rather lost track) to link Mary and her parents to the family in the first part of this thread, where the name Ward features.

Wasn't aware of that - I came in on the last request - will take a look

EDTED

Having looked, I'll probably leave this, as there is reference to 'previous thread', presumably about the same people

For helpers' reference:

Previous thread is about John Brewer , c1809 - pre-1871 , and his son.
John's wife was Mary Margaret Ward, but Marian doesn't need info about her.

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1390543

It doesn't affect the present thread.

Hello Argyl, Kay and Erika, I didn't know about Mary being in the WRNS so that's something new. It's nice to know that Mary's birth has been found. I have only recently found Charles because on the 1881 census on family search, only William, Sarah, Emilie and William came up. I have only just found Sarah on the 1991 census with Charles. I don't know why but sometimes on family search only half the families show up and I don't know how to get to the next page. Thank you for your efforts.