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SMITH
ALISTER FRANCIS ANTONY
JAMES PAUL SMITH/MARGARET STEMMETY
M
0/7/1877
1/7/1877
Edinburgh, St Mary's Cathedral

Re the name Smith-Steinmetz:

Gerard's name at birth is transcribed simply as Smith .
Maybe Steinmetz features as a middle name:

SMITH
GERARD ARCHIBAL- - - - - -
M
1878
455/ 25
Saline (Fife)


ADDED:

had a look just to satisfy my own curiosity. -

Gerard Archibald John Smith, born 21 Sept 1878, at Fernwoodlea, Saline.
Father: James Paul Smith, landed proprietor.
Mother: Margaret Smith, ms Steinmetz.

Parents married 2 Feb 1876 in Bruges.

SMITH
GERARD ARCHIBAL
M
1878
455/ 25
Saline (Fife)

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Fernwoodlee House, Saline, Fife, Scotland
James P Smith Head Married Male 60 1821 Landed Proprietor Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Margaret M P Smith Wife Married Female 37 1844 - Belgium
Alister F A Smith Son - Male 3 1878 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Gerard A T Smith Son - Male 2 1879 - Saline, Fife, Scotland
Paulina M F Smith Daughter - Female 0 1881 - Saline, Fife, Scotland
Janet Liddle Servant Widow Female 41 1840 Nurse Crossgates, Fife, Scotland
Margaret Madden Servant Unmarried Female 23 1858 Cook Coatbridge, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Teresa Doyle Servant Unmarried Female 22 1859 House Maid Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Albany Street, St Mary, St Andrew, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
James P Smith Head Married Male 69 1822 - Midlothian, Scotland
Marg M P Smith Wife Married Female 45 1846 - -
Alester F Smith Son Unmarried Male 13 1878 Scholar Midlothian, Scotland
Gerard A Smith Son Unmarried Male 12 1879 Scholar Saline, Fife, Scotland
Pauline M Smith Daughter Unmarried Female 10 1881 Scholar Saline, Fife, Scotland
Alfred D Smith Son Unmarried Male 9 1882 Scholar Saline, Fife, Scotland
Phil? J M Smith Daughter Unmarried Female 7 1884 Scholar Saline, Fife, Scotland
Elizabeth Walker Servant Unmarried Female 30 1861 Cook Dom Ser Dunbar
Ann McDonald Servant Unmarried Female 22 1869 Housemaid Ser Invernessshire, Scotland
Jane Watters Servant Unmarried Female 33 1858 Sewing Maid Domestic -


SMITH
PHILOMENA MARY
F
1884
455/ 4
Saline (Fife)

Helen Gerard-smith
in the England, Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976
Name: Helen Gerard-smith
Father's Name: Gerard A J Smith
Mother's Name: Dorothy
Death Date: 29 Aug 1950
Death Place: Rome, Italy

States after a very short illness youngest daughter of Dorothy Gerard smith and the late Gerard A J Smith Malayan civil service 2 Roxburgh Mansions ,Kensington Court W.8

Valuation Rolls are the ONLY examples of the name Smith-Steinmetz on SP website

SMITH-STEINMETZ
MARGARET
WIDOW
Proprietor Occupier
HOUSE AND GARDEN MARMION ROAD
NORTH BERWICK
1899
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SMITH-STEINMETZ
MARGARET
WIDOW
Proprietor Occupier
HOUSE AND GARDEN 11 MARMION ROAD
NORTH BERWICK
1900
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SMITH-STEINMETZ
MARGARET
WIDOW
Proprietor Occupier
HOUSE SCOTLAND 11 MARMION ROAD
NORTH BERWICK
1901
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SMITH-STEINMETZ
FATHER A B
REVEREND
Inhabitant Occupier
HOUSE AND GARDEN MAVISBANK
TORRYBURN
1920
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SMITH-STEINMETZ
A B
REVEREND FATHER
Inhabitant Occupier
HOUSE AND GARDEN MAVISBANK
TORRYBURN
1925
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With Dorothy Mary aged 9 months

Mrs Dorothy Mary Smith
Gender: Female
Age: 33
Birth Date: abt 1887
Departure Date: 10 Apr 1920
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Singapore
Ship Name: Delta
Search Ship Database: Search for the Delta in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co
Official Number: 120709
Master: H R Hetherington

Dorothy Mary Smith
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Dorothy Mary Smith
Arrival Age: 6
Birth Date: abt 1919
Port of Departure: Far East
Arrival Date: 2 Oct 1925
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Singapore; Penang; Shanghai; Port Said; Hong Kong
Ship Name: Antenor
Shipping Line: Blue Funnel Line
Official Number: 147292

Travelling with her mother, and siblings Ronald James (4), Andrew John (2), and Helen Margaret (4 months).
Destination: The Grange, Kemerton.


The three younger children weren't with their mother in 1939.

Her father went to Singapore in 1918, and returned in 1925 - but travelled alone.

No records of him returning in between those dates, though that doesn't mean he didn't.
[EDIT: Shirley must have found other records, per above post ]

Gerard A J Smith
in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Gerard A J Smith
Gender: Male
Age: 40
Birth Date: abt 1878
Departure Date: 1 Nov 1918
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Singapore
Ship Name: Pembrokeshire
Shipping Line: Royal Mail Steam Packet Co
Official Number: 126349
Master: L W Bolland

Occupation: civil servant.
Country of intended future residence: Fed Malay States.


Gerard Archbald John Smith
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Gerard Archbald John Smith
Arrival Age: 47
Birth Date: abt 1878
Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan
Arrival Date: 30 Oct 1925
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Shanghai; Marseilles; Singapore; Penang; Port Sudan; Hong Kong
Ship Name: Khyber
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 135564

Gerard and Dorothy travelled to Singapore several times
He was listed as a civil servant

Wonder if the children were born abroad

Can't find any birth info for Dorothy jnr

But if the ERs in the 1960's are her, in the name of Gerard-Smith, perhaps they separated or divorced and she reverted to her maiden name.

The woman on the ERs at 5 Abingdon Mansions is the same one who married Anthony Paul, per the 1957 travel record.

If the marriage to PAUL is relevant, Dorothy jnr's death should be in that name, unless she married again

Ah, well, in that case, ignore the 1999 death !

1939 for birth date confirmation

Wings Cottage, Broadway, Evesham R.D., Worcestershire, England
Dorothy Gerard-Smith 18 Oct 1887 Female Unpaid Domestic Duti Married 4 1
Dorothy Gerard-Smith 28 May 1919 Female Unapid Domestic Dut Single 4 2

A site where you can look for info

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Possible death????


Dorothy Mary Smith
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Dorothy Mary Smith
Death Age: 80
Birth Date: 19 Jan 1919
Registration Date: Apr 1999
Registration District: Richmond Upon Thames
Inferred County: Greater London
Register Number: 34A
District and Subdistrict: 2481
Entry Number: 8


But there were two Dorothy Mary Smiths born in the 1st qr of 1919 - and doubtless several Dorothys who married Smiths - so the above death is only a possibility.

Presumably the daughter Dorothy 1919 (where was she born?):

Dorothy M., Wings Gerard-Smith [ mistranscribed ]
in the Gloucestershire, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1974
Name: Dorothy M., Wings Gerard-Smith
Residence Year: 1947
Parliamentary Division: Cirencester and Tewkesbury
Residence Place: Gloucestershire, England

The name on the image is Dorothy M Gerard-Smith.
Address: Wings Cottage, Kemerton.


She's then on ERs at various different addresses, up to 1965:

Dorothy M Gerard-Smith
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Dorothy M Gerard-Smith
Electoral Date: 1965
Street Address: 5 Capt
Ward or Division/Constituency: Kensington South
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea, England
Reference Number: LCC/PER/B/3039


But ???

Dorothy M Gerard-smith
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Dorothy M Gerard-smith
Registration Date: Oct 1955
[Nov 1955]
[Dec 1955]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Spouse: Anthony Paul
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 2178


Dorothy Mary Paul
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Dorothy Mary Paul
Arrival Age: 38
Birth Date: 1919
Port of Departure: Mombasa, Kenya
Arrival Date: 1 Jul 1957
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Mombasa; Tanga; Dar es Salaam; Beira; Cape Town and Las Palmas
Ship Name: Uganda
Shipping Line: British India Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 9513/01

Travelling with Anthony Paul, 1918, farmer.
Address: 5 Abingdon Mansions <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Dorothy

Dorothy M Maccabe
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Felton, Northumberland
Civil Parish: Kemerton
Search Photos: Search for 'Kemerton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Country: England
Street Address: The Grange, Kemerton, Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Private Means
Registration District Number: 334
Sub-registration District: Tewkesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 08
Piece: 15581
Household Members:
Name Age
Dorothy Maccabe 66
Mary Maccabe 41
Dorothy M Maccabe 24
Susanna David 60
Alice Jones 38
Beatrice Harris 23

From CWGC site


FLYING OFFICER
ANDREW SMITH
Service Number: 118308
Regiment & Unit/Ship
Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
2854 Sqdn. R.A.F. Regt.
Date of Death
Died 07 July 1945
Buried or commemorated at
RANGOON WAR CEMETERY
2. B. 16.
Myanmar

Marriage

Marriages Jun 1913
MacCabe Dorothy M Steinmetz Tewkesbury 6a 898
Steinmetz Gerard S MacCabe Tewkesbury 6a 898