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ArgyllGran
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27 Jan 2021 14:56 |
1851 already posted by safc.
But that doesn't fit with my reading of what Caza said -
" . . . they have 3 sons .William b c1812, 1841 1851 and1861 census have them living in western Orkney with his father William until know we believed his mother was jean she doesn't appear on any of the census.1851 there is a Barbara hewison living with them.
To me that means that in 1851 Barbara was with William 1812 and his father.
Perhaps I haven't understood Caza's post.
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Maddie
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27 Jan 2021 14:45 |
William Last name Gray Marriage year 1839 Marriage date 23 Nov 1839 Marriage place Westray And Papa Westray,Orkney,Scotland Spouse's first name(s) Margaret Spouse's last name Hewison Place Westray and Papa Westray County Orkney Country Scotland Record set Scotland Marriages 1561-1910
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27 Jan 2021 14:37 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
North Hammer, Westray, Orkney, Scotland
William Hewison Head Married Male 68 1783 Under Miller Orkney, Scotland Barbara Hewison Wife Married Female 62 1789 Miller's Wife Orkney, Scotland William Gray Son-In-Law Married Male 37 1814 Fisherman Orkney, Scotland Margaret Gray Daughter Married Female 38 1813 Fisherman's Wife Orkney, Scotland Robert Gray Grand Child Unmarried Male 10 1841 Scholar Orkney, Scotland William Gray Grand Child - Male 8 1843 Scholar Orkney, Scotland Thomas Gray Grand Child - Male 6 1845 Scholar Orkney, Scotland Barbara Gray Grand Child - Female 4 1847 - Orkney, Scotland James Gray Grand Child - Male 2 1849 - Orkney, Scotland Jean Gray Grand Child - Female 0 1851 - Orkney, Scotland
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caza
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27 Jan 2021 13:11 |
Barbara 1851 is 62 living in westray and papa westray number 033/9/3
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ErikaH
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27 Jan 2021 12:59 |
NO sign of a BARBARA with them in 1851...............if you have different info, please C&P
I've looked at FMP.....
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ArgyllGran
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26 Jan 2021 22:53 |
I'm not quite sure where we're going with this, if anywhere.
In a small community in those days, everyone would be inter-related, and have the same names.
Marriage:
HEWISON WILLIAM BARBARA COUPER/FR260 (FR260) 17/11/1811 033/ 10 315 Westray and Papa Westray
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safc
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26 Jan 2021 22:52 |
Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County Orkney Place (Links to more information) Westray Church name (Links to more information) North Parish Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register Baptism date 04 * 1789 Person forename Barbra Person sex F Father forename Jerom Mother forename Christian Father surname COUPAR Mother surname HUME Transcribed by Catherine Jury File line number 365
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26 Jan 2021 22:44 |
Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County Orkney Place (Links to more information) Westray Church name (Links to more information) North Parish Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register Baptism date 14 Mar 1813 Person forename Margaret Person sex F Father forename William Mother forename Barbara Father surname HEWISON Mother surname COUPER Transcribed by Jackie Dinsdale File line number 1174
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safc
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26 Jan 2021 22:42 |
Census Year County Census District Civil Parish Piece Enumeration District Page House Number House or Street Name 1841 Orkney Isles (OKI) Westray West 33 1 7 North Hammer Surname Forenames Sex Age Occupation Birth County Notes HEWISON William M 55 Farmer OKI HEWISON Barbra F 50 OKI HURSTON Jennet F 70 Female Servant OKI HURSTON David M 65 Dependent OKI
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26 Jan 2021 22:40 |
Census Year County Census District Civil Parish Ecclesiastical Parish Piece Enumeration District Folio Page Schedule House Number House or Street Name 1851 Orkney Isles (OKI) Westray Westray Westray 33 9 17 3 11 North Hammer Surname Forenames Relationship Marital Status Sex Age Occupation Birth County Birth Place Disability Notes HEWISON William Head M M 68 Miller OKI Papa Westray HEWISON Barbara Wife M F 62 OKI Pharay GRAY William Sonlaw M M 37 Fisherman OKI Westray GRAY Margaret Dau M F 38 OKI Westray GRAY Robert Grnson U M 10 Scholar OKI Westray GRAY William Grnson - M 8 Scholar OKI Westray GRAY Thomas Grnson - M 6 Scholar OKI Westray GRAY Barbara Grndau - F 4 OKI Westray GRAY James Grnson - M 2 OKI Westray GRAY Jean Grndau - F 4m OKI Westray
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ArgyllGran
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26 Jan 2021 22:39 |
This could possibly be the death of Barbara:
HEWISON BARBARA 66 mmn FERGUS 1855 033/ 13 Westray and Papa Westray
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ArgyllGran
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26 Jan 2021 22:36 |
Barbara is with William in 1841:
William Hewison in the 1841 Scotland Census Name: William Hewison Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786 Gender: Male Where born: Orkney and Shetland, Scotland Civil Parish: Westray County: Orkney and Shetland Address: N Hammer Occupation: Farmer Parish Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age William Hewison 55 Barbra Hewison 50 Jennet Hurston 70 David Hurston 65
1841 census never gives relationships, so it's impossible to say if she's his wife or not. Could be his sister.
You say she's with the family in 1851 - but not according to Ancestry's transcription (below). You need to look at the image of the original on Scotland People to see if the transcription is accurate or not.
William Hewison in the 1851 Scotland Census Name: William Hewison Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relationship: Head Spouse: Oscilla Hewison Gender: Male Where born: Westray, Orkney Parish Number: 33 Civil Parish: Westray and Papa Westray Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Island of Westray County: Orkney Address: North Hammer Occupation: Farmer (of 40 Acres) No Laborer Employing ED: 9 Page: 3 Household Schedule Number: 10 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1851_6 Household Members: Name Age William Hewison 38 Oscilla Hewison 39 William Hewison 13 Robert Hewison 8 James Hewison 4
The 1812 baptism showing mother as Jean is the only likely one on SP - but of course other records may not have survived, or other children not have been baptised.
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ArgyllGran
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26 Jan 2021 22:29 |
New thread about William Hewison started by Caza today.
Copying the post here to keep everything together:-
Looking for a fresh pair of eyes for this as going round in circles.William hewison married urcilla Reid they have 3 sons .William b c1812, 1841 1851 and1861 census have them living in western Orkney with his father William until know we believed his mother was jean she doesn't appear on any of the census.1851 there is a Barbara hewison living with them could this be the mother.Scotland's peop?e have a William hewison being born to a jean and another to a Barbara any help appreciated
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ErikaH
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20 Jan 2021 15:55 |
That would explain the absence of a marriage record................
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safc
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19 Jan 2021 20:06 |
Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County Orkney Place (Links to more information) Westray Church name (Links to more information) North Parish Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified Baptism date 1812 Person forename William Person sex M Father forename William Mother forename Jean Father surname HEWISON Mother surname HEWISON Notes Natural son Transcribed by Jackie Dinsdale File line number 1135
i think natural son means illegitimate in scotland
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19 Jan 2021 19:00 |
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HEWISON WILL WILL. HEWISON/JEAN HEWISON FR136 (FR136) M 24/05/1812 033/ 10 126 Westray and Papa Westray View image (6 credits) HEWISON WILLIAM WILL. HEWISON/JEAN HEWISON FR157 (FR157) M 24/05/1812 033/ 10 145 Westray and Papa Westray
this is the only william hewison born orkney
to a william and jean
can;t find any other children
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ErikaH
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19 Jan 2021 16:57 |
I can't even see a baptism for the alleged son, never mind any marriage between Harcus and Hewison
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caza
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19 Jan 2021 16:48 |
William and jean had a son William who married a Ursula Reid but not till the 1830s coincidence there is now anothe urcilla reid!!
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ArgyllGran
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19 Jan 2021 16:30 |
Related threads about other family members - just to save anyone's time if they stray off the exact question asked:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1378410 https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1379755 https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1299438
There were loads of Harcuses (and other spellings) in Orkney.
Their marriage record (which I can't find so far) won't show their fathers' names.
Possibilities ONLY:
William Hewison Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: William Hewison Event Type: Christening Event Date: 17 Jun 1781 Event Place: Westray and Papa Westray, Orkney, Scotland Event Place (Original): Westray and Papa Westray, Orkney, Scotland Gender: Male Father's Name: Thomas Hewison Mother's Name: Merjory Steenson
Janett Hercus in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: Janett Hercus Gender: Female Baptism Date: 12 Aug 1780 Baptism Place: Westray and Papa Westray,Orkney,Scotland Father: Andrew Hercus Mother: Ursla Reid FHL Film Number: 990518
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Maddie
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19 Jan 2021 16:26 |
????? HARCUS JEAN ANDREW HARCUS/JEAN SEATER FR127 (FR127) F 31/03/1789 033/ 10 118 Westray and
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