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Doreen
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3 Jan 2021 23:09 |
Cornelius Driscoll 1842 - c1887 was my GG Grand father born in Cork, Ireland and he moved to CARMARTHEN Dyfed Wales and married to Bridget Driscoll 1842-1925. I'm trying to find what happened to him and where's about his burial? I believe he was hawker and live at 28 Thomas Street, he probably died in between 1886 & 1897.
Hope anyone can help with it?
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ErikaH
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3 Jan 2021 23:24 |
Have you tried looking for a death registration?
When and where did he marry?
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Doreen
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3 Jan 2021 23:39 |
I cant find his death registration. He was married to Bridget at St Marys Catholic Church, CARMARTHEN Dyfed Wales on 5/5/1860, his wife's burial in Aberdare.
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malyon
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4 Jan 2021 00:12 |
Cornelius Driscol England and Wales Census, 1871 Name: Cornelius Driscol Event Type: Census Event Date: 1871 Event Place: Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Carmarthen, St Peter, Carmarthenshire, Wales Sub-District: Carmarthen Enumeration District: 4 Gender: Male Age: 29 Marital Status: Married Occupation: Hawker Birth Year (Estimated): 1842 Birthplace: Cork, Ireland Relationship to Head of Household: Head Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1871/5498/0049 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Cornelius Driscol Head Male 29 Cork, Ireland John Driscol Son Male 7 St Peters, Carmarthenshire Bridget Driscol Daughter Female 5 St Peters, Carmarthenshire
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malyon
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4 Jan 2021 00:15 |
Cornelius Driscoll England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 Name: Cornelius Driscoll Event Type: Death Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration Year: 1886 Registration District: Cardiff County: Glamorganshire Event Place: Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales Volume: 11A Affiliate Line Number: 92
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malyon
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4 Jan 2021 00:20 |
John Driscoll England and Wales Census, 1881 Name: John Driscoll Event Type: Census Event Date: 1881 Event Place: Caron-Ys-Clawdd Aka Tregaron, Cardiganshire, Wales Registration District: Tregaron Gender: Male Age: 18 Marital Status: Single Marital Status (Original): Single Occupation: Farmer'S Serv (Indoor) Birth Year (Estimated): 1863 Birthplace: Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales Relationship to Head of Household: Servant Page Number: 1 Registration Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 5452/60 Affiliate Record Type: Household Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1881/4362748/00328&parentid=GBC/1881/0025419733 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Hugh Williams Head Male 25 Caron Ys Clawdd, Cardiganshire, Wales Jane Williams Wife Female 26 Llanddewy Brefi, Cardiganshire, Wales Jane Williams Daughter Female 4 Caron Is Clawdd, Cardiganshire, Wales Hugh Williams Son Male 2 Cardiganshire, Wales Anne Williams Daughter Female 0 Cardiganshire, Wales Margaret Thomas Servant Female 23 Llanddewy Brefi, Cardiganshire, Wales Anne Thomas Servant Female 9 Cardiganshire, Wales John Williams Servant Male 17 Caron Is Clawdd, Cardiganshire, Wales John Driscoll Servant Male 18 Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales
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malyon
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4 Jan 2021 00:22 |
Name: John Driscoll Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Event Place: Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales, United Kingdom County: Glamorganshire Civil Parish: Aberdare Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Sub-District: Aberdare Registration District: Merthyr Tydfil Gender: Male Age: 37 Occupation: COLLIERY CARPENTER Relationship to Head of Household: Head Birth Year (Estimated): 1864 Birthplace: Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire Schedule Type: 101 Page Number: 16 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace John Driscoll Head Male 37 Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire Elizabeth Driscoll Wife Female 37 Ireland County Wexford Ellen Driscoll Daughter Female 13 Aberdare, Glamorganshire James Driscoll Son Male 11 Aberdare, Glamorganshire Bridget Driscoll Daughter Female 9 Aberdare, Glamorganshire Mary Driscoll Daughter Female 6 Aberdare, Glamorganshire Daniel Driscoll Son Male 2 Aberdare, Glamorganshire Elizabeth Driscoll Daughter Female 1 Aberdare, Glamorganshire
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malyon
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4 Jan 2021 00:37 |
bridget driscoll must have been born 1842 has her children were born 1863 and 1865 so could not have bewen born 1852
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4 Jan 2021 08:51 |
Bridget in 1871?
Event Type: Census Event Date: 1871 Event Place: Tregaron, Cardiganshire, Wales, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Tregaron, Argoed & Ystrad, Cardiganshire, Wales Name: Bridget Drysgol Gender: Female Age: 28 Birth Year (Estimated): 1843 Birthplace: Tiperary, Ireland Marital Status: Married Occupation: Earthenware Dealer Relationship to Head of Household: Lodger
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Mary Parker Head F 58 Caron, Cardiganshire Caroline Smith Servant F 62 London Bridget Drysgol Lodger F 28 Tiperary, Ireland Mary Drysgol Lodger F 10 Carmarthen Eleanor Drysgol Lodger F 3 Carmarthen Daniel Drysgol Lodger M 1 Carmarthen Cornelius Cotter Lodger M 30 Cork, Ireland
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4 Jan 2021 08:56 |
Listed as widow in 1881:
Event Type: Census Event Date: 1881 Event Place: Caron-Ys-Clawdd Aka Tregaron, Cardiganshire, Wales Name: Bridget Drisgol Gender: Female Age: 40 Birth Year (Estimated): 1841 Birthplace: Tipperary, Ireland Marital Status: Widow Occupation: Hardware Dealer Relationship to Head of Household: Head Page Number: 8 Piece/Folio: 5452/14 Registration Number: RG11 Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1881/4362748/00237&parentid=GBC/1881/0025418443 Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Bridget Drisgol Head F 40 Tipperary, Ireland Mary A Drisgol Daughter F 20 Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales Daniel Drisgol Son M 11 Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales Cathrine Drisgol Daughter F 9 Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales James Drisgol Son M 7 Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales
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ErikaH
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4 Jan 2021 09:36 |
I discounted that marriage, as you state that his wife was born in 1852
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ArgyllGran
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4 Jan 2021 09:56 |
A bit more detail.
Malyon posted 1871 for Cornelius and children. Their address at that time was Daisybank.
As Cornelius is your g-g-grandfather, you must know what children he had.
Possible children of the 1860 marriage:
DRISCOLL, JOHN mmn DRISCOLL GRO Reference: 1863 S Quarter in CARMARTHEN Volume 11A Page 634
DRISCOLL, MARY mmn DRISCOLL GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in CARMARTHEN Volume 11A Page 679
DRISCOLL, BRIDGET mmn DRISCOLL GRO Reference: 1865 S Quarter in CARMARTHEN Volume 11A Page 692
DRISCOLL, DANIEL mmn DRISCOLL GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in CARMARTHEN Volume 11A Page 739
DRISCOLL, JAMES mmn DRISCOLL GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in CARMARTHEN Volume 11A Page 777
DRISCOLL, CATHERINE mmn DRISCOLL GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in CARMARTHEN Volume 11A Page 772
These fit with the 1881 for Bridget which Rose posted, and with the 1871 for Cornelius, posted by Malyon.
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ArgyllGran
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4 Jan 2021 10:12 |
Malyon posted the death of a Cornelius Driscoll in Apr-June qr of 1886.
That will be one of these deaths, from GRO site:
DRISCOLL, CORNELIUS 0 GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in OF CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 207
DRISCOLL, CORNELIUS 60 GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in OF CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 212
Neither of them was born anywhere near 1842.
What are your reasons for thinking he died specifically between 1886 and 1897?
Bridget is listed as widowed in 1881. Not that that necessarily means that Cornelius had died. They may just have separated.
Cornelius Driscoll is a surprisingly common name. As he was a hawker he may have travelled around a lot, so his death could potentially be anywhere.
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ArgyllGran
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4 Jan 2021 10:26 |
As you say Bridget died in 1925 and is buried in Aberdare, I assume this is her death - therefore born 1842, not 1852:
Deaths Mar 1925 (>99%) Driscoll Bridget 83 Merthyr T. 11a 954
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Doreen
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4 Jan 2021 10:54 |
ArgyllGran and Rose
Thank you for your replies, it's really an appreciate.
You got the right of their children's information
CORNELIUS AND BRIDGET DRISCOLL HAD 7 CHILEDREN MARY ANN DRISCOLL B. C1861-1898 JOHN DRISCOLL B. 1863-1936 BRIDGET DRISCOLL B. 1866-1880 ELEANOR DRISCOLL B. C1867-1956 DANIEL DRISCOLL B. 1871-C1942 CATHERINE DRISCOLL B. 1872- ? JAMES DRISCOLL B. 1873-1947
Rose mention that Bridget was widow in 1881. Cornelius was deceased before 1881? He could be buried in Cardiganshire?
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