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John Hill

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MartinHill

MartinHill Report 23 Dec 2020 10:48

Hi,
I am trying to find out more about John Hill.
He is the father of William Hill b 1797, baptised 19/12/1797 SAINT WERBURGH CHURCH, KINGSLEY, STOKE.
Using freereg I can see that his wife was Elizabeth but not sure where to go from here to find out more information, maybe contact the church to see the baptism records? Thanks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Dec 2020 11:41

Doesn't answer your query, but confirms the father's name - if it's the same William

First name(s) William
Last name Hill......................Forgeman
Age 42...........Widower
Birth year 1797
Marriage year 1839
Marriage date 13 Jul 1839
Marriage place Wolverhampton, St Peter
Denomination Anglican
Residence Bilston
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Hill...............................Forgeman
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Jones
Spouse's age 50
Spouse's residence Bilston
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's father's last name Bickerton

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Dec 2020 11:54

???????
William
Last name Hill
Baptism year 1797
Baptism date ? Dec 1797
Baptism place Kingsley, St Werburgh
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Martha
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1478/4
Page 2
Register type Baptism & burial
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Dec 2020 11:57

John
Last name Hill
Denomination Anglican
Residence Kingsley
Banns year 1790
Marriage year 1790
Marriage date 13 Feb 1790
Spouse's first name(s) Martha
Spouse's last name Goodwin
Spouse's residence Kingsley
Place Kingsley, St Werburgh
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1478/10
Register type Marriage

malyon

malyon Report 23 Dec 2020 11:57

this marriage is in SAINT WERBURGH CHURCH

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John Hill
England, Staffordshire, Church Records, 1538-1944


Name: Elizabeth Boden
Event Type:
Marriage License
Event Date:
1782
Event Place:
Horsley, Derbyshire, England
Event Place (Original):
Horsley, Derbyshire, England
Residence Place:
Horseley, Derby
Age:
17
Marital Status:
Single
Birth Date:
1765
Marriage Date:
25 May 1782
Spouse's Name:
John Hill
Spouse's Residence Place:
St Werbergh, Borough of Derbyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Spouse's Age: x
21
Spouse's Marital Status:
Unknown
Spouse's Occupation:
Baker
Spouse's Birth Date:
1761
Spouse's Birth Year:
1761

Inky1

Inky1 Report 23 Dec 2020 12:02

Per FamilySearch - see stated name of mother:-

Name:
William Hill
Event Type:
Baptism
Event Date:
Dec 1797
Event Place:
Kingsley, Staffordshire, England
Event Place (Original):
St Werburgh, Kingsley, St Werburgh, Staffordshire, England
Parish:
St Werburgh
Father's Name:
John Hill
Mother's Name:
Martha
Affiliate Image Identifier:
D1478/4

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Dec 2020 12:05

Martha
Last name Goodwin
Baptism year 1770
Baptism date 11 Feb 1770
Baptism place Kingsley, St Werburgh
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1478/3

John
Last name Hill
Baptism year 1773
Baptism date 21 Nov 1773
Baptism place Kingsley, St Werburgh
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Richard
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1478/3
Page 89
Register type Composite

or

Jhn
Last name Hill
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1765
Baptism date 11 Aug 1765
Place Kingsley
County Staffordshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Hry
Father's last name Hill
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Page 77
Register type Composite

or

Martha
Last name Goodwin
Baptism year 1775
Baptism date 30 Apr 1775
Baptism place Kingsley, St Werburgh
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Mary
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1478/3
Page 94
Register type Composite

or

Jhn
Last name Hill
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1775
Baptism date 24 Sep 1775
Place Kingsley
County Staffordshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Jhn
Father's last name Hill
Mother's first name(s) Marg
Mother's last name -

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Dec 2020 12:12

FREE site, Martin............make a note of it

https://www.familysearch.org/en/

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Dec 2020 12:13

siblings
Joseph
Last name Hill
Baptism year 1800
Baptism date 02 Jun 1800
Baptism place Kingsley, St Werburgh
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Martha Goodwin
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1478/4
Page 6
Register type Baptism & burial

John
Last name Hill
Baptism year 1796
Baptism date 10 Jul 1796
Baptism place Kingsley, St Werburgh
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Martha
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1478/4
Page 1
Register type Baptism & burial

Geo
Last name Hill
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1793
Baptism date 26 Jun 1793
Place Kingsley
County Staffordshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Jhn
Father's last name Hill
Mother's first name(s) Martha
Mother's last name -

Joseph
Last name Hill
Birth year -
Death year 1805
Burial year 1805
Burial date 16 Jul 1805
Church St Werburgh
Denomination Anglican
Place Kingsley
County Staffordshire



greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Dec 2020 12:26

The baptism you refer to -

County Staffordshire
Place (Links to more information) Kingsley
Church name (Links to more information) St Werburgh
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Register entry number 67
Baptism date 19 Dec 1797
Person forename William
Person sex M
Father forename John
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname HILL
Transcribed by Brian James
File line number 65

Perhaps the first name has been read from the wrong line in the parish register. You may need to see the original to confirm for yourself

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Dec 2020 12:50

Malyon - I think that the marriage you've highlighted took place in Horsley, a few miles North of Derby - presumably the bride's parish. Her husband happened to be of the Parish of St Werburgh in Derby.
At the time, Derby/s came under to Diocese of Lichfield in Staffordshire, which is where the Licence to marry would have been granted.

MartinHill

MartinHill Report 23 Dec 2020 12:58

Thanks for your efforts but the parents to William are definitely John and Elizabeth and not Martha.

I did find a most likely - Marriage date 26 Apr 1785 , st marys, Staffordshire. Elizabeth Kingstone. George Hill witness. John witness at Ellen Kingstones wedding at same location, Marriage date 03 Jul 1791. Groom was Edward Stanton

Other possible Elizabeth Ellesmore Marriage date 01 Feb 1794

Greyghost you have confirmed the correct baptism information for William. Looks like there are half a dozen possibles but still unsure how to confirm the correct one.

Maddie I saw that link with Joseph as a sibling, it all seemed to fit but his mother is Martha which doesn't fit.
:-(

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Dec 2020 13:11

is this williaqm

Wm Hill

in the 1841 England Census
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Name: Wm Hill
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Swinnerton
Hundred: North Pirehill
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
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Registration District: Stoke upon Trent
Sub-registration District: Shelton
Neighbors:
Piece: 992
Book: 9
Folio: 13
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Hill 40
Sarah Hill 43
Geo Hill 15
Ann Derher 20

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Name: William Hell
[William Hill]
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Hell
Gender: Male
Where born: Kingsley, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Hope
Town: Hanley and Shelton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration District: Shelton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1m
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 29
Piece: 2005
Folio: 321
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hell 53
Sarah Hell 53
Sarah Jane Hell 3 grandaughter

Sarah Jane
Last name Hill
Baptism year 1847
Baptism date 29 Aug 1847
Baptism place Shelton, St Mark
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) George
Mother's first name(s) Ann
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D4904/1/1
Page 179

George
Last name Hill
Age Full Age
Marriage year 1846
Marriage date 24 May 1846
Marriage place Shelton, St Mark
Denomination Anglican
Residence Shelton
Father's first name(s) William --- miner
Father's last name Hill
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Lloyd
Spouse's age Full Age
Spouse's residence Shelton
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's father's last name Lloyd
County Staffordshire