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MartinHill
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23 Dec 2020 10:48 |
Hi, I am trying to find out more about John Hill. He is the father of William Hill b 1797, baptised 19/12/1797 SAINT WERBURGH CHURCH, KINGSLEY, STOKE. Using freereg I can see that his wife was Elizabeth but not sure where to go from here to find out more information, maybe contact the church to see the baptism records? Thanks
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ErikaH
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23 Dec 2020 11:41 |
Doesn't answer your query, but confirms the father's name - if it's the same William
First name(s) William Last name Hill......................Forgeman Age 42...........Widower Birth year 1797 Marriage year 1839 Marriage date 13 Jul 1839 Marriage place Wolverhampton, St Peter Denomination Anglican Residence Bilston Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Hill...............................Forgeman Spouse's first name(s) Ann Spouse's last name Jones Spouse's age 50 Spouse's residence Bilston Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas Spouse's father's last name Bickerton
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Maddie
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23 Dec 2020 11:54 |
??????? William Last name Hill Baptism year 1797 Baptism date ? Dec 1797 Baptism place Kingsley, St Werburgh Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Martha County Staffordshire Country England Archive reference D1478/4 Page 2 Register type Baptism & burial Record set Staffordshire Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
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Maddie
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23 Dec 2020 11:57 |
John Last name Hill Denomination Anglican Residence Kingsley Banns year 1790 Marriage year 1790 Marriage date 13 Feb 1790 Spouse's first name(s) Martha Spouse's last name Goodwin Spouse's residence Kingsley Place Kingsley, St Werburgh County Staffordshire Country England Archive reference D1478/10 Register type Marriage
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malyon
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23 Dec 2020 11:57 |
this marriage is in SAINT WERBURGH CHURCH
Records Images Family Tree Genealogies Catalog Books Wiki John Hill England, Staffordshire, Church Records, 1538-1944
Name: Elizabeth Boden Event Type: Marriage License Event Date: 1782 Event Place: Horsley, Derbyshire, England Event Place (Original): Horsley, Derbyshire, England Residence Place: Horseley, Derby Age: 17 Marital Status: Single Birth Date: 1765 Marriage Date: 25 May 1782 Spouse's Name: John Hill Spouse's Residence Place: St Werbergh, Borough of Derbyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Spouse's Age: x 21 Spouse's Marital Status: Unknown Spouse's Occupation: Baker Spouse's Birth Date: 1761 Spouse's Birth Year: 1761
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Inky1
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23 Dec 2020 12:02 |
Per FamilySearch - see stated name of mother:-
Name: William Hill Event Type: Baptism Event Date: Dec 1797 Event Place: Kingsley, Staffordshire, England Event Place (Original): St Werburgh, Kingsley, St Werburgh, Staffordshire, England Parish: St Werburgh Father's Name: John Hill Mother's Name: Martha Affiliate Image Identifier: D1478/4
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Maddie
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23 Dec 2020 12:05 |
Martha Last name Goodwin Baptism year 1770 Baptism date 11 Feb 1770 Baptism place Kingsley, St Werburgh Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) Joseph Mother's first name(s) Ellen County Staffordshire Country England Archive reference D1478/3
John Last name Hill Baptism year 1773 Baptism date 21 Nov 1773 Baptism place Kingsley, St Werburgh Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) Richard Mother's first name(s) Sarah County Staffordshire Country England Archive reference D1478/3 Page 89 Register type Composite
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Jhn Last name Hill Gender Male Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1765 Baptism date 11 Aug 1765 Place Kingsley County Staffordshire Country England Father's first name(s) Hry Father's last name Hill Mother's first name(s) Mary Page 77 Register type Composite
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Martha Last name Goodwin Baptism year 1775 Baptism date 30 Apr 1775 Baptism place Kingsley, St Werburgh Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Mary County Staffordshire Country England Archive reference D1478/3 Page 94 Register type Composite
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Jhn Last name Hill Gender Male Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1775 Baptism date 24 Sep 1775 Place Kingsley County Staffordshire Country England Father's first name(s) Jhn Father's last name Hill Mother's first name(s) Marg Mother's last name -
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ErikaH
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23 Dec 2020 12:12 |
FREE site, Martin............make a note of it
https://www.familysearch.org/en/
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Maddie
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23 Dec 2020 12:13 |
siblings Joseph Last name Hill Baptism year 1800 Baptism date 02 Jun 1800 Baptism place Kingsley, St Werburgh Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Martha Goodwin County Staffordshire Country England Archive reference D1478/4 Page 6 Register type Baptism & burial
John Last name Hill Baptism year 1796 Baptism date 10 Jul 1796 Baptism place Kingsley, St Werburgh Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Martha County Staffordshire Country England Archive reference D1478/4 Page 1 Register type Baptism & burial
Geo Last name Hill Gender Male Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1793 Baptism date 26 Jun 1793 Place Kingsley County Staffordshire Country England Father's first name(s) Jhn Father's last name Hill Mother's first name(s) Martha Mother's last name -
Joseph Last name Hill Birth year - Death year 1805 Burial year 1805 Burial date 16 Jul 1805 Church St Werburgh Denomination Anglican Place Kingsley County Staffordshire
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greyghost
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23 Dec 2020 12:26 |
The baptism you refer to -
County Staffordshire Place (Links to more information) Kingsley Church name (Links to more information) St Werburgh Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified Register entry number 67 Baptism date 19 Dec 1797 Person forename William Person sex M Father forename John Mother forename Elizabeth Father surname HILL Transcribed by Brian James File line number 65
Perhaps the first name has been read from the wrong line in the parish register. You may need to see the original to confirm for yourself
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greyghost
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23 Dec 2020 12:50 |
Malyon - I think that the marriage you've highlighted took place in Horsley, a few miles North of Derby - presumably the bride's parish. Her husband happened to be of the Parish of St Werburgh in Derby. At the time, Derby/s came under to Diocese of Lichfield in Staffordshire, which is where the Licence to marry would have been granted.
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MartinHill
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23 Dec 2020 12:58 |
Thanks for your efforts but the parents to William are definitely John and Elizabeth and not Martha.
I did find a most likely - Marriage date 26 Apr 1785 , st marys, Staffordshire. Elizabeth Kingstone. George Hill witness. John witness at Ellen Kingstones wedding at same location, Marriage date 03 Jul 1791. Groom was Edward Stanton
Other possible Elizabeth Ellesmore Marriage date 01 Feb 1794
Greyghost you have confirmed the correct baptism information for William. Looks like there are half a dozen possibles but still unsure how to confirm the correct one.
Maddie I saw that link with Joseph as a sibling, it all seemed to fit but his mother is Martha which doesn't fit. :-(
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Maddie
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23 Dec 2020 13:11 |
is this williaqm
Wm Hill
in the 1841 England Census View 1841 England Census
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Name: Wm Hill Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Where born: Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Swinnerton Hundred: North Pirehill County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: View image Registration District: Stoke upon Trent Sub-registration District: Shelton Neighbors: Piece: 992 Book: 9 Folio: 13 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Wm Hill 40 Sarah Hill 43 Geo Hill 15 Ann Derher 20
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Name: William Hell [William Hill] Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Hell Gender: Male Where born: Kingsley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Hope Town: Hanley and Shelton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration District: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration District: Shelton ED, institution, or vessel: 1m Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 29 Piece: 2005 Folio: 321 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age William Hell 53 Sarah Hell 53 Sarah Jane Hell 3 grandaughter
Sarah Jane Last name Hill Baptism year 1847 Baptism date 29 Aug 1847 Baptism place Shelton, St Mark Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) George Mother's first name(s) Ann County Staffordshire Country England Archive reference D4904/1/1 Page 179
George Last name Hill Age Full Age Marriage year 1846 Marriage date 24 May 1846 Marriage place Shelton, St Mark Denomination Anglican Residence Shelton Father's first name(s) William --- miner Father's last name Hill Spouse's first name(s) Ann Spouse's last name Lloyd Spouse's age Full Age Spouse's residence Shelton Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas Spouse's father's last name Lloyd County Staffordshire
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