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I am trying to find my husbands family tree. I am looking for relatives of Albert Dudley We know that he is related to Dennis Skinner MP. Albert was married to Hilda Johnson and that they lived in Clay Cross Derbyshire. Hilda was born in Barrow in Furness Lancashire. If anyone that can help in tracing Albert or Hilda's tree line please get in touch.

To get some idea of the time period:

Marriages Sep 1939
Dudley Albert Johnson Aldershot 2c 1190
Johnson Hilda Dudley Aldershot 2c 1190

Do you know when they were born?

Rose

For a starting point, the marriage was in JAS 1939 in Aldershot

Neither party had a second forename

Unless you know WHEN each of them was born, you should get a copy of the marriage cert for ages and fathers’ names

MAY have found Hilda in 1939., living in Clay Cross, DOB 11/01/1912 with a family headed by John Dudley

I expect Albert was in the forces, in view of the marriage location

Birth in Barrow district JAS 1912 for Hilda Johnson, MMN Morrison

Now look on freebmd for the marriage of her parents
Much more fun to do it yourself.

Death matching the above in 1998 registered in Chesterfield district

Dennis' parents:

Marriages Dec 1928
DUDLEY Lucy Skinner Chesterfield 7b 1837
SKINNER Edward Dudley Chesterfield 7b 1837

Rose

Births Sep 1914
DUDLEY Albert Spencer Chesterfield 7b 1480

Rose

Name: Albert Dudley
Event Type: Death Registration
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1989
Registration District: Chesterfield
County: Derbyshire
Event Place: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969): 23 Jul 1914
Volume: 6

Page: 346

Rose

Albert's parents?

Name: John Dudley
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Event Place: Claylane, Derbyshire, England, United Kingdom
County: Derbyshire
Parish: Clay Lane
Sub-District: Ashover
Sub-District Number: 1
District Number: 438
Enumeration District: 8
Registration District: Chesterfield
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Marital Status: Married
Marital Status (Original): MARRIED
Occupation: COAL MINER DRAFTMAN
Number in Family: 4
Birth Year (Estimated): 1879
Birthplace: Dudley In, Staffordshire
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Schedule Type: 171
Page Number: 1
Registration Number: RG14
Piece/Folio: 341
Affiliate Record Identifier: GBC/1911/RG14/21062/0341/1


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Dudley Head M 32 Dudley In, Staffordshire
Lily Dudley Wife F 28 Clay Cross, Derbyshire
Ella Dudley Daughter F 8 Clay Cross, Derbyshire
Susan Dudley Daughter F 7 Clay Cross, Derbyshire
John William Dudley Son M 5 Clay Cross, Derbyshire

Record Type: Household
Line Number: 1

Rose

http://www.cumbriabmd.org.uk/

Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
JOHNSON William T MORRISON Margaret 1906 Barrow-in-Furness Register Office or Registrar Attended Cumbria Certificate Services C1/18/150



JOHNSON James MORRISON 1907 Barrow Cumbria Certificate Services B/111/68

JOHNSON Ivy MORRISON 1909 Barrow Cumbria Certificate Services B/119/250

1911
14 Goldsmith St Barrow in Furness, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England
William Thomas Johnson Head Married Male 25 1886 Labourer Steel Rail Rolling Finishing Dept The B H S C Lancashire Barrow
Margaret Johnson Wife Married Female 25 1886 - Cumberland Cleator Moor
Ivy Johnson Daughter - Female 1 1910 - Lanc Barrow

One child has died, which must be James, but I can't see a death registration

Nor can I see his birth on freebmd or FMP

EDITED

JOHNSON, THOMAS FREDERICK MORRISON
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in BARROW IN FURNESS Volume 08E Page 810

Cumbria site must have mistranscribed it

Deaths Dec 1910 (>99%)
Johnson Thomas F 3 Barrow in Furness 8e 321

Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1885
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
JOHNSON William Thomas ETHERIDGE 1885 Barrow Cumbria Certificate Services B/35/444

Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
Etheridge Mary Barrow F. 8e 1191
JOHNSON Thomas Barrow F. 8e 1191

Margaret's birth should be registered in Whitehaven district, but I can't see it

John
Last name Dudley
Birth year 1878
Birth date 01 Feb 1878
Event year 1888
School name St Bartholomew's National Boys School
Town Clay Cross
County Derbyshire
Country England
Parent name(s) John Dudley
Book type Admissions
Archive reference D6196_1_1

1901
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Thanet Street, Clay Cross, Claylane, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Dudley Head Married Male 51 1850 Coal Miner Hewer Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Maria Dudley Wife Married Female 52 1849 - Tipton, Staffordshire, England
John Dudley Son Single Male 23 1878 Coal Miner Hewer Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Arthur Dudley Son Single Male 20 1881 Coal Miner Hewer Alton, Derbyshire, England
Tom Dudley Son Single Male 15 1886 Pony Driver In Coal Mine Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England
Sarah Dudley Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Alton, Derbyshire, England
Lilly Dudley Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - Alton, Derbyshire, England
May Dudley Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Alton, Derbyshire, England

Name: John Dudley
Gender: Male
Age: 19
Birth Date: abt 1852
Marriage Date: 21 May 1871
Marriage Place: Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Father: John Dudley
Spouse: Maria Timmins
Search Photos: Search for 'Tipton, Staffordshire, England' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection

Name: Maria Timmins
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 21 Feb 1851
Baptism Date: 20 Apr 1851
Baptism Place: Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England
Father: Joseph Timmins
Mother: Sarah
FHL Film Number: 378774, 378775, 378777, 378778

John
Last name Dudley
Gender Male
Birth year 1851
Birth place -
Baptism year 1851
Baptism date 30 Mar 1851
Place Dudley
County Worcestershire
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Dudley
Mother's first name(s) Jane

Name: John Dudley
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1825
Marriage Date: 11 Mar 1850
Marriage Place: Rowley-Regis, Stafford, England
Father: Joseph Dudley
Spouse: Jane Hodgess
FHL Film Number: 367801
Reference ID: v68 p240 cn480

in the 1851 England Census

Name: Joseph Timmins
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Timmins
Gender: Male
Where born: Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Tipton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: Dudley
Sub-registration District: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1i
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 25
Piece: 2029
Folio: 265
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Timmins 26
Sarah Timmins 23
Mariah Timmins 1 Mo

Name: Joseph Timmins
Death Age: 50
Event Type: Death
Birth Year: abt 1828
Death Date: 22 Mar 1878
Death Place: Dudley, Worcester, England
Occupation: Pikeman
Colliery: Oakham
Owner: Oakham Colliery Co
Notes: Fall of coal in thick coal. He knocked out some timber and incautiouisly went under the coal when it fell and crushed him to death.

Name: Joseph Timmins
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 12 May 1850
Marriage Place: Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England
Spouse: Sarah Burton
FHL Film Number: 378771, 378772, 378773, 378774, 378775, 378776, 378777

thank you all for the help, most grateful

hilda Johnson was born 11/01/1912 not got alberts yet

His DoB is on his death registration - posted 29 Sep at 09.37

ALBERT
Last name DUDLEY
Birth year 1914
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Spencer
District Chesterfield
County Derbyshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 1480

John
Last name Dudley
Sex Male
Marriage year 1901
Parish St.Bartholomew
Place Clay Cross
Spouse's first name Lilly
Spouse's last name Spencer
County Derbyshire
Country England
Register Office 393
Reference PC19/03/240

1911 Census For England & Wales

50 Long Row Clay X, Clay Lane, Derbyshire, England

Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Dudley Head Married Male 32 1879 Coal Miner Draftman Dudley in Staffordshire
Lily Dudley Wife Married Female 28 1883 - Clay Cross Derbyshire
Ella Dudley Daughter - Female 8 1903 School Clay Cross Derbyshire
Susan Dudley Daughter - Female 7 1904 School Clay Cross Derbyshire
John William Dudley Son - Male 5 1906 School Clay Cross Derbyshire

DUDLEY, JOHN WILLIAM SPENCER
GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in CHESTERFIELD Volume 07B Page 758

the link to dennis skinner
Lucy
Last name Dudley
Baptism year 1911
Baptism date 29 Dec 1911
Denomination Anglican
Place Clay Cross
County Derbyshire
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Dudley
Mother's first name(s) Lily
Mother's last name Dudley
Country England
Record set Derbyshire Birth

DUDLEY, LUCY SPENCER
GRO Reference: 1911 D Quarter in CHESTERFIELD Volume 07B Page 1342

2 more siblings

DUDLEY, JESSIE SPENCER
GRO Reference: 1917 M Quarter in CHESTERFIELD Volume 07B Page 1185
DUDLEY, LILY SPENCER
GRO Reference: 1918 D Quarter in CHESTERFIELD Volume 07B Page 1097

lily married harold hurt who died 1994
she is on the er for chesterfiled 2003 - 2005

Jessie
Last name Dudley
Age 12 Months
Birth year 1917
Death year 1917
Death date 30 Dec 1917
Death place 50 Long Row
Burial year 1918
Burial date 03 Jan 1918
Burial place Clay Cross
County Derbyshire
Country England
Notes
Daughter of John Dudley, Miner Unconsecrated