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Hi there can anyone help please:
My wife's Uncle is John James Fordyce born 17 Sep 1902 graigellachie Scotland, moved to Belfast to live:
In 1925 he emigrated to Australia: He left on 15 Jan 1924 from London to Melbourne Victoria: He arrived there on P&O ship "Beltana" on 24 Feb 1925:
We can not find him returning to the UK or what he did while in Australia: we know he did return and we think it was around 1927, but he was back by 1931 as that is when he got married in Belfast:
IAny help would be most appreciated :
Mumbles:
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For info - the name of his birthplace is Craigellachie.
Posting the outward voyage just for our reference:
John James Fordyce
in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: John James Fordyce
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1903
Departure Date: 15 Jan 1925
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Melbourne, Australia
Ship Name: Beltana
Shipping Line: Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Company
Official Number: 131853
Master: Captain C H Allin
Address: 17 Agra St, Ormeau Road, Belfast.
Labourer.
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froma tree on ancestry that may not be accurate
john
Birth
17 Sep 1902 • Aberlour, Banffshire, Scotland
Birth record source Karen Joscht.
1902
(AGE)
Birth of Brother William Alexander Dow-Sainter FORDYCE(1905–1979)
21 May 1905 • Aberlour, Banffshire, Scotland
1905
2
Residence
2 April 1911 • Ormeau, Down, Ireland
35 Agra Street; John J Fordyce, 34, 12 yrs married, assurance agent; Marion G, 31, 4 children born/4 living, wife; Alfred GI, 11, son; John J, 8, son; Hugh M, 8, son; William A, 5, son.
1911
8
Birth of Brother Ronald Stewart Cummings FORDYCE(1911–1966)
10 Nov 1911 • Belfast, Antrim, Northern Ireland
1911
9
Birth of Sister Marion Elizabeth Clara FORDYCE(1915–1983)
20 Feb 1915 • Belfast, Antrim, Northern Ireland
1915
12
Departure
14 Jan 1922 • Glasgow, Scotland
SS Assyria; John Fordyce, 20, agricultral worker; father John Fordyce, Far Mer. Silverford, Gamrie, Banffshire. Final Destination San Blas Mexico.
1922
19
Arrival
30 Jan 1922 • New York, New York
SS Assyria; John Fordyce, 20, agricultral worker; father John Fordyce, Far Mer. Silverford, Gamrie, Banffshire. Final Destination San Blas Mexico.
1922
19
Birth of Sister Dorothy McKintosh McKenzie FORDYCE(1922–1995)
3 Apr 1922 • Belfast, Antrim, Northern Ireland
1922
19
Departure
15 Jan 1925 • London, England
SS Beltana. Bound for Australia. John James Fordyce, 17 Agra St, Ormeau Rd, Belfast. Labourer age 22.
1925
22
Arrival
Feb 1925 • Melbourne, Australia
SS Belatana Outward Voyage 29. List of Passengers in Transit London to Melbourne (British).
1925
22
Arrival
8 Jul 1927 • Liverpool, England
SS Oropesa. Depart from Coronel (Chile) and Intermediate. Emabarked Port of Havana. John Fordyce, Silverford, Banffshire, Scotland, farmer, age 25, country of last residence Cuba.
1927
24
Departure
1927 • Coronel, Chile
SS Oropesa. Depart from Coronel (Chile) and Intermediate. Emabarked Port of Havana. John Fordyce, Silverford, Banffshire, Scotland, farmer, age 25, country of last residence Cuba.
1927
25
Marriage
14 Jul 1931 • Belfast, Antrim, Northern Ireland
Rebecca Crossley
(1909–1990)
1931
28
Death of Father John Illingworth Fordyce(1876–1948)
5 Aug 1948 • Belfast, Antrim, Northern Ireland
1948
45
Death
11 Jul 1957 • Belfast, Antrim, Northern Ireland
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Homeward voyage as in that tree:
John Fordyce
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: John Fordyce
Arrival Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1902
Port of Departure: Coronel, Chile
Arrival Date: 8 Jul 1927
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Iquique; Callao; Valparaiso; Paita; Mejillones; Coruna; San Antonia; Mollendo; Antofagasta; La Pallice; Cristobal; Santander; Habana; Vigo
Ship Name: Oropesa
Shipping Line: Pacific Steam Navigation Co
Official Number: 143667
Going to Silverford, Banffshire, Scotland.
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Some of the details from the Karen Joscht are correct i.e. the brothers and sisters mentioned are correct. My wife does not think that the outward journey from Glasgow to New York or the return from Chile is the same John Fordyce: He would not be leaving from Scotland or returning there as he was living in Ireland and had been since before 1911. Thank you for sending that, Wife had seen that tree:
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Info: I received a pm from a GR member in Oz and they told me to try the National Library of Australia in Canberra: Although they are in Canberra they cover the whole of Oz:
On their site they have a pop up called "Ask a Librarian" I tried it, you write the query you have just like a email and they pick it up and they search for you: They restrict the search to one hour: They got back to me after about a week but in my case there was no luck:
They also gave me another site to try " National Archives of Australia" I have tried them and are now waiting to see if any thing is forth coming:
Hope that this might help for anyone searching in Oz:
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